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Remember to run 2 1/4 pipe no larger or smaller.
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Why not 2 1/2 pipes? I was thinking about going 2 1/2 back to the muffler and 2 1/4 dual outs.

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ya sure a used one and hobart makes some cheap good ones what do you mean by cheap?

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Is there any such thing as a cheap MIG??
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I haven't had any problems with mine.

But I wouldn't recommend the gasless MIGs. Welds are much cleaner (no slag) with at least CO2.

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Bigger is not necessarily always better. You want to keep the exhaust velocity up at the head of the system; too large a pipe spoils that. Besides, the manifold outlet is 2". You can hone it a little to 2 and a fraction, but 2½" is going to make it basically impossible to seal the headpipe flange to the manifold outlet.

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So 2 1/4 is absolutly the largest I should go?

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Is there any such thing as a cheap MIG??
Joe
Harbor Freight on sale...........

I haven't had any problems with mine.

But I wouldn't recommend the gasless MIGs. Welds are much cleaner (no slag) with at least CO2.
slag isnt bad... if u weld right

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So Dan, Is 2" the right way to go or 2 1/4"?? It would seem that to keep it simple (the old KISS works for me) would be to go with 2" or is that too constrictive? I don't want to start a raging debate here on size!!
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There's no reason to use 2" or 2½" instead of 2¼", which is a known-good size from every perspective (function, fit, etc.).

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I guess I'm confused about the exhaust outlet being 2" working with 2 1/4" pipe??
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It works fine (the factory did it that way starting in '76).

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Dan, I'm sorry, you're going to have to walk me through this. You've got a 2" hole in the exhaust outlet, how do you stuff a 2 1/4" pipe in there??
Pictures might help. Once I get the concept I'm fine, but until then.....
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Dan, I'm sorry, you're going to have to walk me through this. You've got a 2" hole in the exhaust outlet, how do you stuff a 2 1/4" pipe in there??
Pictures might help. Once I get the concept I'm fine, but until then.....
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Joe

You don't.


The exhaust diameter steps up to 2.25" at the exhaust flange that's flush against the exhaust manifold.

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Dan, OK I get it now.
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Hey, I'm doing that tomorrow (going from 2" to 2.25")! :mrgreen:


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Whats the best muffler for a nice deep sound, but its still pretty loud? I was thinking a flowmaster 40 series.

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