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 Post subject: Poverty Hubs
PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:02 am 
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3 Deuce Weber

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On my 74 i have a pair of "poverty hubs", the hub caps with outer trim ring. I've had people tell me they're worthless compared to ralley wheels, but i have all four center hubs and two of the outer trim rings. Suggestions, comments welcome, im just curious


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:08 am 
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I don't believe the outer trim rings are factory, and they aren't "worthless". Sure a set of Ralleys looks flashy and can usually get more money from the uninformed buyer, but many many many of the fastest muscle cars from the 60s and early 70s were "strippers" meaning they were ordered stripped down with few options besides a big engine. These cars very oftn came with the cheapest hubcap Mopar offered for that car, or even none at all. This means that people who are doing a restoration of one of these cars want the nicest set of "poverty caps" they can find. Plus, some cars just look better with clean and simple stock rims with stock hub caps.

Are the people who tell you the hubcaps are worthless driving around wioth 20 inch rims?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:14 am 
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I don't believe the outer trim rings are factory, and they aren't "worthless". Sure a set of Ralleys looks flashy and can usually get more money from the uninformed buyer, but many many many of the fastest muscle cars from the 60s and early 70s were "strippers" meaning they were ordered stripped down with few options besides a big engine. These cars very oftn came with the cheapest hubcap Mopar offered for that car, or even none at all. This means that people who are doing a restoration of one of these cars want the nicest set of "poverty caps" they can find. Plus, some cars just look better with clean and simple stock rims with stock hub caps.

Are the people who tell you the hubcaps are worthless driving around wioth 20 inch rims?

Or maybe they have a project car themselves :twisted:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:45 am 
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About the only cars that got the dog dish caps (hub caps as opposed to wheel covers) where fleet cars (police, county, rentals, government, etc), frugal buyers (my car originaly had the aluminum poverty caps), and like Reed said, muscle car buyers. The muscle car guys mostly took the factory wheels off and put mags on, so why pay extra for (heavy) factory rims? The only cars I can think of that came factory with trim rings with steel wheels and hub caps where the E bodys...the Challanger T/A's and the Barracuda AAR's. I love the look of hub caps with black or body color steel rims...Used to be you could find them for cheap at wrecking yards (only paid 20 bucks for my stainless steel police caps many years ago) and if one was in my way on the ground, I just step on them and flatten them out. Oy. Wish I bought them all, could have made some good money for them! Have you seen what people want for them now, like a set of Plymouth Division hub caps, made only from '69 to early '71? :shock: Even the stainless Dodge caps with the red circle are worth their weight in gold...


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:34 pm 
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I actually like the look of the dog-dish hubcaps over full wheel covers..

Plus when you change to a 14" or 15" rim from the stock 13" rim they still fit...........

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:33 pm 
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I actually like the look of the dog-dish hubcaps over full wheel covers..

Plus when you change to a 14" or 15" rim from the stock 13" rim they still fit...........
I second that motion! I have slowly been collecting them as I find them (full caps and poverty caps) because they are like Eric W stated "Worth their weight in gold". A new set of the Dodge Caps with the ring in the center were priced new at $325 on a website I visited recently... can't find it now.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:04 pm 
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What kills me is the price of cop rims these days. I bought three sets over the years and always paid $5 per rim and $5 per cop hub cap. I am now seeing these rims go for $600 per set on eBay! For that money, I will go find a set of slotted mags that weighs less.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:46 am 
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I actually like the look of the dog-dish hubcaps over full wheel covers.............

Third.

Both my a-bodies, and both my f-bodies run 'em.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:10 am 
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3 Deuce Weber

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I have the red dodge tri-star hubs. I love the way they look with flat black


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:02 pm 
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Location: Sonoma, Calif.
Car Model: Many Darts and a Dacuda
No full wheel covers for me, thank-you.
I have spent too much time in the roadside ditches & bushes... looking for one after it came-off in a hard corner. :x
I have never had a dog dish hubcap pop off.
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