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 Post subject: How to ID a Carter BBD
PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:00 pm 
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There are so many carb numbers listed for the 3 barrel BBD and there is no number on mine other than casting numbers. Is there anywhere I can find out exactly which BBD I have?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:24 pm 
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If you don't have the ID tag you are screwed.

I did some stuff researching carbs in my shop. I checked the rods with a micrometer, etc.

A '77 won't have a fitting in the rear for a EGR. '78's will.

Jets are the same size as a 318.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:56 pm 
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If you don't have the ID tag you are screwed.
Correct.
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A '77 won't have a fitting in the rear for a EGR.
Yeah, it will. First year for EGR was '73.
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Jets are the same size as a 318.
No, they're generally not.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:31 am 
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OK-I'm screwed. Nothing I didn't know a long time ago. Given I have no way to find out exactlty which carb I have is there a a way to tell which base gasket out of a rebuild kit to use? I've read threads here about notches in the base etc. but also read about DIY bases so any advice is appreciated. I may have put the wrong base gasket on my rebuild-there were 3 in the kit and all I had to go by were some faint marks on the existing carb.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:39 am 
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PPSI did you keep your old gaskets? That is where your answer is. If you determine that you do have a super6 you need to buy the 6 gasket not the 318 one. There is a difference.

Dan, the EGR thing I was refering to is the small brass tube intruding into the driver side rear.

The air horn is thicker on the super6 on the flat side.


On the jet sizes how do you measure them? I couldn't read them. I checked them with twist drills. I didn't find any that fit snug. They did feel the same in the jet.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:26 am 
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I'll PM you my number. I am off work today. If you catch me while I can get into the shop I can get my hands onto a carb or 2 and the gaskets.

BTW if your's is apart? Spray some WD40 or pur some alchohol into the holes where the jets go. Look and see if they leak through to the bottom. One I rebuilt for myself did. I wiped a little "black berry syrup" Permatex on the bottom to fix that. The gasket might negate the need for it, I did it anyways.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:17 pm 
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I know that the truck is an 82, my dad bought it new and swapped the engine and tranny out with one from a 1973 van... but the engine sticker says 72... any way i am trying to id the carb like most newbies... it is a carter with 2285 stamped on the bottom.... it also has an orange tag affixed to it 8028s 3553 854... any ideas what i am looking at...


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:25 pm 
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8028s that may help


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:39 pm 
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Nothing in my mopar stuff


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:58 pm 
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From old carter info 8028s 1974 auto federal 318 Carter zip kit no 902-307


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:36 am 
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thanx for the info... it has been helpful


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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:48 pm 
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Any idea how to ID the one I have with no tag? I have been told it is a slant six carb or at least not a V8 carb.
It is a tin top-w-the vent inside the bowl and the choke plate has a hole in it approx 1/4" diameter 1/3" in from the flat side of the plate. Also the metering rod or vacuum piston can be adjusted through a small hole in the tin top under the air cleaner gasket. BTW the manual here says this screw should not be adjusted but I am wondering if adjusting it would allow more fuel to be delivered??? My car seems to run very lean.
Any help is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 7:44 pm 
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PPSI did you change that gasket we talked about on the phone?

I am wondering if your throttle shaft isn't loose. That will cause a lean condition.

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2005 Golden Couch Buick


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:15 am 
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I have not looked into the gasket issue yet. I've been too tied up trying to figure out why I can't get a good brake pedal. I will look more closely at these items asap.
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Howard

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2009 2:55 pm 
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I'll PM you my number. I am off work today. If you catch me while I can get into the shop I can get my hands onto a carb or 2 and the gaskets.

BTW if your's is apart? Spray some WD40 or pur some alchohol into the holes where the jets go. Look and see if they leak through to the bottom. One I rebuilt for myself did. I wiped a little "black berry syrup" Permatex on the bottom to fix that. The gasket might negate the need for it, I did it anyways.
The shop is a collective We huh! BBD? BOOB BOOB DETROIT??? The black berry syrup I understand I know it's not lock tight and who needs a telephone yesterday!!!!

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