Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:20 pm

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1 2 Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:22 am 
Offline
TBI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:48 pm
Posts: 186
Location: Wilton, Ca.
Car Model:
For all you slant six guru's: Engine with unknown mileage. All holes measure approximately the same compression with only slight variance. Oil pressure is 48 lbs at 1200 rpms and 20 at idle. Spark plugs all burn same with a tan coloring what I would consider normal.

Question: What is the risk of taking the head off and shaving it .050 and reinstalling it? Nothing else would be done to the engine except a new head gasket. :roll:


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:49 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
Me, with an engine in such apparently good mechanical shape, I'd leave it buttoned up and focus on other (bolt-on) upgrades for now.

And I definitely wouldn't shave! :lol: Image

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject: Ha Ha Ha
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 12:15 pm 
Offline
TBI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:48 pm
Posts: 186
Location: Wilton, Ca.
Car Model:
Coming from you Dan, that answer does not surprize me. :lol: But now you have my curiosity up. What else could you do besides the supersix upgrade to a 2 barrel? Headers seem like overkill to me with a stock engine. My exhaust is already at 2.25 with a Magnaflow muffler.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:22 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
Well, rather than headers I'd look at Dutra Duals if you need more exhaust capacity. Already got the Super Six, eh? Well, what's your ignition system look like? Good recurve and HEI upgrade, maybe?

What's the overall goal here, and what year engine/car is this?

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject: Goal
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:05 pm 
Offline
TBI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:48 pm
Posts: 186
Location: Wilton, Ca.
Car Model:
Right now I'm just experimenting since I am fairly new to slant six engines. The goal I suppose...in the end is to end up with me at the drag strip. Its in a 71 Demon, 904 tranny, 8.75 3.23 posi rearend.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:07 pm 
Offline
TBI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:48 pm
Posts: 186
Location: Wilton, Ca.
Car Model:
The goal is to end up with a hp motor that will not embarrass me at the drag strip.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:21 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
Ah, drag racing; I assumed street use. Then yeah, I guess you might reasonably look at increasing the compression ratio, changing the cam, etc.

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:36 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:04 pm
Posts: 7416
Location: Oregon
Car Model: 2023 Eichman Digger?
Do you know the chamber volume and how far down the hole you are now?

Check that out before cutting.

On a stock uncut engine, 0.50" isn't going to equate to much. Perhaps a tad better ET, but you'd be better off getting into the 0.090 to 0.100 range for a drag car. Then you get the chance to decide if you want it off the head, or off the block. Get up into the 0.100" range and custom push rods may be needed.

What kind of ET are you shooting for?

CJ

_________________
Part of Tyrde-Browne Racing


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Ha Ha Ha
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:55 pm 
Offline
3 Deuce Weber
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:08 pm
Posts: 64
Location: Dayton, OH
Car Model:
Quote:
Coming from you Dan, that answer does not surprize me. :lol: But now you have my curiosity up. What else could you do besides the supersix upgrade to a 2 barrel? Headers seem like overkill to me with a stock engine. My exhaust is already at 2.25 with a Magnaflow muffler.

which magnaflow muffler do you have? how do you like it?


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:14 pm 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:03 pm
Posts: 9498
Location: IRWIN PA
Car Model:
You can go .100" off the block and .110" off the head and That might get you to about 10:1 and yes you will need .100" to 1.50" shorter push rods.

Check you Head CC's to be sure of the compression.

This upgrade would only make sense with correct cam and carb - tinake / and exhaust improvements to support the Milling of the head and block.

Greg

_________________
http://www.youtube.com/hyperpack
Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:01 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & SL6 Racer
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:36 pm
Posts: 2432
Location: East Arkansas
Car Model:
Greg where are you getting your numbers? With .210 off total you will be alot higher than 10 to 1. Im at better than 11 to 1 with .150 off. And for most combinations .100 off(in what ever combination you want) is about the max before you need push rods.
My02.
Frank

_________________
Scrapple: Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
73 Duster - Race Car
66 Dart Wagon - DD
178" FED
82 D150
All Slant powered


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:43 am 
Offline
SL6 Racer & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:06 pm
Posts: 8713
Location: Silver Springs, Fl.
Car Model:
My opinion: .050 is not worth doing. The OEM head gasket was about .022 thick. most replacement gaskets are about .020 thicker, so your net gain is only .030

_________________
Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:10 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 11:08 am
Posts: 16793
Location: Blacksburg, VA
Car Model:
If you bother to pull the head, do some port work and maybe bigger valves, and definitely don't mill off less than 0.080" as others have said. 0.080-100" off will get you to high 8s or 9:1, but it depends on piston-deck ht and gasket and chamber...

Lou

_________________
Home of Slant6-powered fun machines since 1988


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:12 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:28 pm
Posts: 645
Location: SFCAUSA
Car Model:
Personally, I do not like unknown, arbitrary numbers when dealing with my engine, but thats me.
I'm still a novice here but what I have read and repeating what others are saying- knocking .05 off the head you might not notice any substantial gains.

I have come to find out the most important thing is taking measurements- cc chambers, check piston/deck heights, etc. will give you a point of reference.
With this info you can then figure what you want to take off and where.

Check the Articles section, there is lots of info on stock heights, diameters and other useful numbers.



:)

_________________
<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/2992308402_5481afb26e_t.jpg">


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:22 am 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:03 pm
Posts: 9498
Location: IRWIN PA
Car Model:
Quote:
Greg where are you getting your numbers? With .210 off total you will be alot higher than 10 to 1. Im at better than 11 to 1 with .150 off. And for most combinations .100 off(in what ever combination you want) is about the max before you need push rods.
My02.
Frank
Well I never Officially CC'd My heads So I really do not know. Maybe my engine is higher than that.

Greg

_________________
http://www.youtube.com/hyperpack
Image


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 20 posts ]  Go to page 1 2 Next

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ahrefs [Bot], Semrush [Bot] and 29 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited