But I would have to know a guy with a lathe in order to be able to bribe him.

When I talked to a shop about parting them off and touching the snout to fit my 17" wheels, he wasn't much interested in it unless I cut the rotors off first. I have to admit, I kind of drug my feet on it because of that (didn't realize it was over a year of dragging them though ).

Oh well, I could use the weight loss, and all I spent on it was $2.25 for new hacksaw blade (cut the time on the second one in half). Out of pocket was still less than a six pack.

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'15 Chrysler 200S V6
'74 Duster 360, factory 4 speed car

Finally got the hubs done.

Had the shop step the snout to match a Mustang hubs so they would match up to a Mustang rotor and wheel. In the end, the snout didn't need much, but I had it turned to 2.80" for about 1/4" from the wheel flange and then 2.78" from there up (this from memory, need to verify my numbers).

Also, had to step up to aftermarket MP wheel studs as I couldn't find anything OE that was long enough. The stock Mopar rotor/hub seems to be much thicker than any of the latter model hub flanges so everything was short.

Couldn't mock up my brake kit as I ran into an interference between the adapter and hub, so that will have to wait, but I was able to finally get the wheels off the ground and on the car. Not sure the 17x8 wheels are going to work in front though, they look awful tight. Didn't turn the wheels yet, so we will see.

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'15 Chrysler 200S V6
'74 Duster 360, factory 4 speed car

You're reinventing the wheel but I suppose you know that already. DoctorDiff has a Mustang kit for Mopars. He has an aluminum hub that adapts the 13 inch Cobra rotor and caliper over to any disc brake knuckle. A 17 inch Mustang rim then slides on to complete the deal.

<Sheepish>

Yah, I know I'm reinventing the wheel. Problem is, nobody wants to give the stuff away. I have no real budget, only what I can scrape up once in awhile or horde from the few parts I might sell. So, I have to do it the hard way.

Spent a lot of time looking at brake kits, and not just for Mopars, either. If cost had no bearing, I would be running your later Viper setup, but I can't wait until gas is outlawed before I can purchase it.

Priorities are such that I can't spend a great deal of money, so if I want to build a car, I have to do it as cost effective as possible. Such is life.

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'15 Chrysler 200S V6
'74 Duster 360, factory 4 speed car

Besides, I wanted something bigger than the PBR pad guided calipers.

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'15 Chrysler 200S V6
'74 Duster 360, factory 4 speed car

Wrong-o. My 73 /6 drum car has the small bolt pattern hubs. From my reads on the subject, the 73 and later drum brake cars retained the SBP, however all came with RH thread studs.

IMHO Chrysler would have spent better money putting a 4½ bolt pattern on 13" wheels in 1959, than tooling up different stuff. (Turn of the mike, I'm getting off the soap box.)

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You can't fix stupid. - Ron White

I've always been puzzled by that myself. And why @&#% did they put 6x 4 1/2 on the Dakota? Six lug setups aren't all that unusual, but the 4 1/2" bolt circle is, and it severly limits the choice of wheels.

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David Kight
'62 Valiant Signet, White
'98 Dodge Dakota
'06 Jeep Liberty

Growing older is unavoidable but growing up is strictly optional.

I'm sure these decisions made sense to some engineer at the time but in hindsight they appear to have been really stupid choices. It was really silly to have SBP and BBP on the A body cars. And I agree with the 6 x 4.5 pattern on the Dakota and Viper. That was just stupid.

My guess is that the engineering management at Chrysler wasn't too sharp. Engineers will always invent new stuff just for the sake of inventing so it is the managers who need to step in and force the engineers to stick with a plan. Getting a whole bunch of engineers to use common parts is a tough job. Kind of like herding cats.

Just a guess, but I suspect the 7/16" studs were a cost savings measure for what was intended to be a light, low end vehicle. They probably never intended the car to have much horsepower, and never a big block, so why put big wheel studs on it.

On the Dakota, I read once, that they want to create some kind of seperation from the other small pickups, other than the size.

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'15 Chrysler 200S V6
'74 Duster 360, factory 4 speed car