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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:48 am 
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My uncle gave me a bunch of tools years ago, and I noticed that sitting in my garage when I cleaned it out to bring the '67 Dart in was a set of these Dupon Hypalon Racing plug wires with the open ends to allow for customizing the lengths.

Are these wires still any good? Would they need to be soldered when assembled? I imagine they're at least 40 years old and have been sitting around collecting a little dust. I'm enclosing these pictures I took last night.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:09 am 
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Forget it -- you don't want to run solid-core wires like that on the street.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:29 am 
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That's what I figured. They look pretty cool anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:28 am 
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Hang on to them though, they do have there place. First though, never run a solid wire on a MSD or other high output ignition. It will fry the box. All though it will perform with great power until that point.

The biggest no no about them though is the noise they will contribute in any electrical system. YOu want be able to even hear a stereo system in a car with these wires for the noise without something to suppress it.


Still many people restore a lot of old nostalgia HotRods or race cars back to the way they where in there day. SOmeone doing such a thing would love to have these wires. I have some old solid wire equipment that came on a roll, the shield/covering is kinda a checkered or plaid kinda pattern and I am 50 years old and I dont remember ever seeing them like this before. I believe they are Atlas or Standard brand and they came with a old box of 50's model wheel bearings and ignition parts so they may be from that eara. Anyway I hang on to the roll incase someone has a real restore project that needs them.

I am not sure but people running mags at the track may still run wires like this.


Just a little info, I used a set like this on a MSD ignition for my 68 440 Road Runner. The system had extreme fire and it worked so good you had to watch when working on the car. Getting shocked wasnt the problem. If you turned the key on the engine would instantly fire up without even touching the starter. Darnest thing I have ever seen. It would even run with the dizzy cap laying to the side like when you was setting points ( not smooth but even idle). That engine was tuned to perfection and it was the most consistant car I ever raced. It was a 4 speed and I could still keep it within the dial in with only some tracks having the extra number to ever read the differance. Like I would dial a 7.83, the car would run a 7.83 with 3 ( 7.833) or 7.83 with 5 or a 7 or even a 0. Its hard to do that with a 4 speed car on radials. All though not that fast it was just a stock piston 440 with head work, intake and carb, headers, plus all the little tricks I knew when building a engine. I put over a hundred thou on the clock and raced it three years. Had more fun with that setup than fast car I ever built.


The MSD box didnt last very long, but it sure did work good while it did.


I have never to this day seen a engine that would start like that with consistancy. It wasnt a fluke thing, you could do it all most every time. I think some OEM's tried to workout a system like this but never perfected it enough to count on it for street use.

Anyway figure out when the wires where made ( maybe 70's by the looks of them) and then watch out for people doing a time period restore on a rod for the same time frame. They will be glad to use them.


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That's wild. I bet that Road Runner would FLY!

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:12 pm 
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not to hyjack....but had a friend who could hach kick his BSA to compression ,turn key ...it would start....

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:00 am 
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ran them on my 50 Indian cheif and my 51 H-D panhead...friend said they could see me coming from a mile away by the static on tv LOL ...no raido on either bike/never fouled plugs

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I may try to ebay these things and see what I could get out of them. If you know anybody that's interested let me know.

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:34 am 
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I've run wire cores on both MSD boxes and stock Chrysler electronic ignitions, and neither ever failed.

You WILL however, pay for it in rather short plug life.

But, while the plugs are still gapped reasonable, the motor will run very, very good. The old poly 318 is startable even in way below freezing weather without a choke, though it takes a little cranking and a couple stalls. When I drive my namesake (which has the MSD 6), people's radar detectors go off, and their "thump thump" music is often disrupted by crackle when they pull up beside me at the light.

Despite the fact that my speedometer is wildly off and I'm prone to speeding in it, I have never been stopped for speeding. I suspect it can't be tracked by radar, due to the incredible noise. Those trailers with the radar and speed displays never work for me. They just read random junk, giving me no reading to check the speedo by.

And, no, I have no radio.

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