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 Post subject: "jeep" aw4 transmission
PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:06 am 
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I have been thinking about the aisin warner aw4 transmission, as fitted to jeep cherokees.
Does anyone have any comments on these transmissions?
Does anyone have a good reason why I shouldn't try to fit one to a 225 in a -67 valiant?

In my jeep, I really like it, and think it would suit the 225 pretty well.

My idea is to use the australian borg warner 35 bellhousing, jeep aw4, and maybe, if I need "more" a toyota 3.0v6 converter, as they are a bit on the "high stall" side.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:32 am 
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That unit does not get good "reviews"...
The challenges for our A-Body cars is the unit is wide at the rear of the case and the fact that it's electronically shifted.
see : http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/aw4.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:53 am 
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Yep, it tends to run hot, but with a good cooler, I have seen them live in pretty tough conditions. If I fit the toyota converter, the heat would go up even more, I guess, but it has lockup...so...I dunno...

The electrics are not really an issue, for me, anyway.

Iit is pretty wide at the back, and I have to measure things before I do anything.

BUT, it is after all going in a relatively lightweight, low power car... I think it should live for a while... :?


I am not saying it is a great idea, but I think it would be worth thinking about, and maybe it would work ok?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:35 pm 
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I think you're better off adapting a GM 200-4R or Chrysler A500 unless this AW4 fits under the stock floor.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:57 pm 
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You might be right... But what is "wrong" with the aw4?

This is kinda why I asked here... Anyone I ask, say they wouldn't bother, but I still have not heard any real reason WHY...

Yes, if I have to cut the floor much, that is a good enough reason for...probably most people.
But say I had an A100 van, with tons of room, and still not too heavy, why not?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:05 pm 
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Other transmissions are proven to be more reliable and efficient. They have better aftermarket support and do not require a full computer. The electronics you say are no problem for you, but are you to be the only owner for the rest of the vehicles life?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:23 pm 
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Hehe, who knows :wink:

So, it is not really reliable, and not so efficient...ok, those are good reasons.

Well, it was worth a few hours of thinking, I guess...
And all of this, just because I found a pic of the bw35 bellhousing :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:54 pm 
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The Aw4 is a great transmission how do I know I have one in my cherokee Rock Crawler and it has 214K miles on it with out a rebuild. The computer is easy to work around you can even rig it to full manual shifting. However it does run hot and is way expensive to rebuild. I know before long mine will bite the dust so I started pricing it out. A master rebuild kit minus the hard parts or selinoids is $850-950. When AW4 goes it will get a 727 in its place.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:15 pm 
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Hmm, this is kinda funny 8)

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