Okay guys, pardon my ignorance, as I've never worked on/with a manual trans car, only driven them.

Right now I'm collecting parts to convert my Swinger from auto to 4-speed. When/if I ever get it converted, my plan is to (one day) buy the new Passon 5-spd, which should swap directly with the A-833.

Okay, the new 5-spd is an 18 spline trans. Slants seem to use the 23 spline trans. My question is this: will I be able to accommodate an 18 spline transmission with available slant six parts? Is this just a clutch issue?

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vm

You will need a custom clutch disc. Spec Clutch can make you one.

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Joshua

Cool, thanks.

So, without contacting them to quote something I won't need for several years, what do you guys think we're talking, here -- an extra $100? $300? over the price of a standard clutch?

I just want to make sure it's a financially viable option before I proceed...

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The clutch disc is likely close to the $100. As they say if you have to ask (about the cost of the clutch) you can't afford it (the Passon 5-speed). When Spec made me a clutch to mate a Toyota R154 to an LA engine the custom clutch spline cost me nothing extra.

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Sorry, I meant the extra cost for the custom spline above and beyond the price of the clutch itself. From your comments, I'm guessing that will be negligible.

All I needed to know! Thanks, Mr. Skinner!

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If you plan on the 5 speed in the future and will be putting it behind a slant,Passion should be able to outfit his with a 23 spline. Just ask.

Didn't think of that. Thanks!

BTW, always been a huge fan of the Dust ya!

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Ryan and I spoke to Jamie at Carlisle and brought up this very issue. He said he could get a clutch disc made up to work if we needed one. He diidn't act like it was any big deal. Didn't ask price. Sorry.

Rick

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Thanks,Vynn3, I liked it too. We all do dumb thing like getting rid of a perfectly good car. Whouda,couda,shoulda,,,

Jammie is a great person to work with. I told him to get everything together so I can put that set up in my 63 Valiant at his leasure..

I talked to Jamie @ carlisle 2011 About the possibility of making the A-855 5 speed with the 1x23 input shaft - And he said that they were not too instestered in doing this.. Instead he suggested that I get a 10" clutch with the Hemi sized (1 3/16" X 18 ) input Splines on the center of the clutch..

I asked him to possibly think about tooling up to make the A-855 with the 1x23 Input shaft as well..

I think the more slant people that bug him abou this the better..

Romeo maybe you have some clout here??
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Greg

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As long as we can get a 10" clutch in a 18 spline ( even if it has to be custom made), you will probably never see a 23 spline 5 speed. I think we would have a much better chance of having him source the clutch disc we need to make it work. The more people that ask ....etc

Rick

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12.70 @ 104.6

I went through the spline thing long ago with my RAP 5 speed. 9.25 Dodge 23 spline clutch is almost the same as Ford 23 spline.......almost

You can get any spline in any disc for a pretty reasonable price

I think I paid $130 foir my McLeod 9.25 ceramic disc with Ford spline.

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Yeah....Im the one who destroyed this rare, vintage automobile.....

I used to see him several times a year and we did many project cars together(before he became famous). But if you guys are serious and may be do a group buy I will see if I got any clout left.... Right now I know he is consumed with getting his tranny to market.

Romeo, feel free to ask him, but I don't see much more than a handful of Slant 6 people doing a swap like this for what it costs. 99% of us are tightwads.

You might be able to get a group buy, but the problem is that they don't need it yet because the tranny is not out yet. As soon as it comes out, then all the Slant 6 folks that want one will be running around looking to have them made.

If Jamie can get them made and have a part # ready to go when the transmission comes out that would be a big plus.

I also think the disc should be of the dual friction type so it holds up well on dragstrip.

Thanks, Rick

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2 Mopars come with Spark plug tubes. One is a world class, racing machine. The other is a 426 CI. boat anchor!

12.70 @ 104.6

Clicked off a e-mail to Mr. Passion and I hope will will here from him in the near future....