Hey All,
Tuesday Afternoon Update:

Just came downstairs to do the next round of the routine on Intake Valve Number Four, and what should be sitting at my door? The NEW 82413, Deluxe Series, 2-5/8" Fuel Gauge! It was supposed to get here tomorrow, but made it a day early.

Have just done the routine on the Intake Valve Number Four, and it doesn't seem to be sticking at all.

Am letting it sit for an hour between routines.

Will be continuing to do the routine till 7:30 p.m.

Hopefully after it sits for twelve hours overnight, and is gotten to tomorrow at 7:30 a.m., it will NOT again be stuck.

If it isn't, then am going to go get five gallons of NEW fresh Gasoline to have on hand.

This evening a friend is picking up a can of SeaFoam and a can of Berryman's CarbCleaner to go into the NEW Gasoline.

The next thing will be putting the Rope in the Cylinder so that the Number Four Intake Valve Spring Assembly can be removed, and the Valve Stem Seal reinstalled.

Then will reinstall the Number Four Valve Spring Assembly, reinstall the Pushrods, Torque the Rocker Arm Shaft down, and do the cold Valve Adjustment.

Then it will be time to install the Carburetor and hook it up except for the Fuel Line.

Install the Distributor Cap and Spark Plugs, and hook up the Spark Plug Leads.

Then put the Gasoline in the Gas Tank and crank the Engine to purge the Fuel Line from the Gas Tank to the Fitting that goes into the Carburetor.

Then hook up the Fuel Line to the Carburetor, and see if Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine will start.

If it does, then will run it on the NEW Gasoline for an hour to see if that will help clean up the Valve Stems.

Lorrie will then sit overnight, and hopefully on Thursday morning, she will start without again bending any Pushrods.

If everything is alright, then we're ready to do the hot Valve Adjustment on Thursday.

What a trip this has become.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

You might try putting some oil into the valve guide (residue maybe setting up after it gets loose) :shrug:

Richard

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Hey Richard,
Have been using AeroKroil, which is a very fine oil, between the Valve Stems and the Valve guides. The action is not so much breaking the OLD Gasoline Residue "loose" as it is "dissolving" it.

Am going to be going out first thing this morning to see if the Number Four Intake Valve is STILL loose in the Guide. If it is, then will be using Daniel's Magic Rope Trick to hold the Valve in place while the Valve Stem/Valve Guide interstice is given some 10W30 Valvoline, and then the Valve Stem Seal will be reinstalled.

Hopefully this sticking Valve problem will be resolved and we can get on with getting Lorrie back to functioning normally.

Anyway, thanks for the response and suggestion.

JC
JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Wednesday Afternoon Update:

Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine is once again up and running!

Started it up at 2:00 p.m.

Ran it for an hour.

It ran well to start with, and as the temperature rose, it got smoother and smoother. At one hour the temperature on the Gauge was 200 degrees.

It idles VERY smoothly, and the Transmission shifts are smooth.

Constantly varied the speed of the Engine from idle to stabbing it wide open. At wide open throttle, the Engine fairly ROARS! Acceleration is instantaneous.

For about the first half an hour, there was a tiny harmonic vibration that would increase with the speed of the Engine. Then of a sudden it just disappeared!

The five gallons of NEW fresh Gasoline had a half pint of SeaFoam, and a half pint of Berryman's ChemTool 12 Gasoline Additive put in it. Am hoping that the additives have cleaned out any residue in the Bendix Stromberg Carburetor, off of the Valve Stems and out of the Valve Guides.

Am a little too fatigued this afternoon to attempt to do the hot Valve Adjustment.

Will be starting Lorrie up again this evening for about an hour.

Then will let her sit overnight, and do it again tomorrow morning. While it's cool and I'm rested, will do the hot Valve Adjustment. Am actually going to try to do it with the Engine running.

Hopefully cleaning out the Gas Tank, putting NEW Fresh Gasoline in the newly cleaned Tank, along with the SeaFoam and ChamTool additives will have the desired effect of keeping the Valves from getting stuck again and bending a bunch of Pushrods.

But just in case, am going to have the Valve Cover off tomorrow morning and will test each intake Valve for springiness by hitting each one of them with a Hammer.

Nonetheless, this has been somewhat of an ordeal, but had none of this happened, I would not have gotten the education that has been gotten.

Am now not afraid of messing with the Valves, Valve Springs, Spring Retainers, Keepers, Rocker Arm Shaft, Rocker Arms, Lifters, and etc.

Have gotten good a uninstalling, and reinstalling the Manifolds.

Don't know what is going to happen next.

If nothing goes awry in the next few days, Lorrie will be taken down off the Jack Stands, and we'll go for a test drive on the road in front of the house. Will be interesting to see how she drives after all these years.

When I first moved here, the road was called "Easy Street", but it has since been renamed "Long Drive". Either way, it's a rocky road, and a dead end. There's GOT to be a song in there somewhere!

Anyway, hope this finds YOU all having had as nice a day as Lorrie and I have had.

Hang in there.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Doobie Brothers... either: "Takin' it to the Streets" or "Rockin Down the Highway"... your pick.
DD

Hey Doc,
Have had a couple of other suggestions: Willie Nelson's "On The Road Again", and the parody of his "Blue Eyes Cryin' In The Rain", "Blue Hairs Drivin' In My Lane".

Just had Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six running again for about half an hour. It seems to be getting smoother and smoother. Starts with a jab at the Throttle, and a touch of the Start Switch. The Temperature Gauge was at 100 degrees when she was started this time. Will see what she does tomorrow morning when she's totally cold.

Lorrie is MUCH happier with NEW fresh Gasoline with no OLD Gasoline Residue in it. Her idle is VERY smooth. The old thing is going to be a VERY reliable daily driver.

Am going to start work on Ms. American 3.14159 as soon as Lorrie is insured, licensed, and inspected.

There is still some stuff left to be done to Lorrie:

Bleed and adjust the Brakes.

Put the Removable Floor Back in place with the Master Cylinder Access Hatch.

Reinstall the Engine Cabinetry.

Reinstll the Steering Wheel (it was taken off the Column to make working on the Dash Panel easier).

Need to check the SureGrip Differential for lubricant.

While the Front Tires are "alright", she REALLY needs a pair like the NEW ones on the Rear Axle.

Also, she could use some work on the Steering Linkage/Front Axle.

Still need to reinstall the Grille, and Front Bumper which was taken off to be able to remove the Radiator to get to the Front End of the Engine. But all that stuff is just incidental.

Anyway, thanks for reading, and the comment.

Hope you are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Well I am very happy to see that this leg of the journey looks complete.

Hope you are doing well and that everything else goes smoothly.


Robert

Hey Robert,
Just some details to take care of left to do. Hot Valve Adjustment, then permanent installation of the Valve Cover, and a bit of securing of some wiring, Installation of the Air Filter, and am going to hopefully be able to call Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine ready for service.
Me too. Thanks for the best wishes.

Am going to be checking the lubrication level in the SureGrip Differential, and changing the element in the Frantz Oil Cleaner, making sure that the Oil Level is at full, and then will run the Engine again for an hour with the Transmission being active.

Hopefully everything will stabilize and we can move on to so me other stuff that needs doing like bleeding and adjusting the Brakes.

Will keep the updates coming.

Anyway Robert, thanks for reading, and taking time to respond.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Thursday Morning Update:

Checked the Differential Lubrication Level. It was six ounces low. Put in the proper lubricant.

Changed the Element in the Frantz Oil Cleaner.

Took all the Tools, Equipment, and Materials out of Lorrie's interior.

Pulled the Valve Cover and tapped each Valve with a Hammer to test for "springiness". They were ALL springy.

Put the Valve Cover back on secured by only two Bolts.

Turned the Run Switch ON. Gave the Accelerator a quarter stab, and hit the Start Switch. Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six didn't even make a full revolution before starting right up.

Revved her up twice, and then let off the Accelerator, and Lorrie went right to a smooth idle.

Warmed her up to 180 degrees, and took off the Valve Cover.

Was going to attempt a Valve Adjustment with the Engine Running. It didn't take long to see that THAT was going to be an exercise in futility.

Turned the Engine off and did the hot Valve Adjustment.

Before reinstalling the Valve Cover, turned the Run Switch ON, and hit the Start Switch, and Lorrie's Engine once again eagerly lept to life.

All the Rocker Arms are oiling, and she is running VERY smoothly.

Turned the Run Switch OFF and proceeded to install the Valve Cover.

After the Valve Cover was firmly in place, restarte Lorrie, and now there is a VERY slight, intermittant, random, bass-sounding "puff", sometimes twice in a row that is happening, and at the Tail Pipe it can be felt. There is possibly, maybe obviously an Exhaust Valve that is still open when the combustion takes place in its Cylinder. This was not happening before the Valve Adjustment.

Also, the Number One Intake Valve's Adjusting Screw is about two turns further into the Rocker Arm's Threads than are the other Intake Valve Screws.

All the Valves are properly adjusted and there is no discernible sound coming from the Valve Train.

The Transmission shifts nicely, though when it goes into Third Gear, there is an increase in the sound coming from the Transmission. Is there possibly something that could be put into the Transmission that would help THAT?

All in all, Lorrie seems to be happy to be alive and breathing once again.

Am going to continue with all the detail work, and when it is done, will take Lorrie for a drive for the first time in over sixteen years.

Anyway, things seem to be going smoothly here. Hope you all are having a GREAT day.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Thursday Afternoon Update:

Had some lunch and tried to take a nap, but couldn't get the strange little misses that have started with Lorrie out of my mind. Got to thinking that maybe the Gas Tank was not cleaned out as good as it should have been, and that the NEW fresh Gasoline was once again picking up some OLD Gasoline Residue and putting it into the Engine.

Got up and went downstairs and took Lorrie's Valve Cover off. Checked all the Pushrods. They are fine. Started Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine and watched the Rocker Arms. That's an amazing sight. Put my fingers on the Valve Stem end of each of the Rocker Arms. then on the Pushrod end. Have never done that before.

By this time, Lorrie's Engine was at operating temperature so got out the "Go-No-Go" Feeler Gauge.

Checked each of the Exhaust Valves and each of the Intake Valves while the Engine was running. All but two of the Exhaust Valves were at precisely 0.024", and all but three of the Intake Valve were at precisely 0.012".

Got out the 3/8" Metrinch Wrench and adjusted the slightly loose Exhaust Valves to precisely 0.024" and the slightly tight Intake Valves to 0.012".

This seemed to lessen, but not totally eliminate the slight "womp" sound, which can be felt at the Tailpipe as a "puff" in an otherwise smooth exhaust.

Also at idle, there is a cyclic vibration. It goes from absolutely NO vibration to the peak of the vibration and back to absolutely NO vibration in twelve seconds. Have no idea what is causing THAT. Could this be endemic to a six cylinder engine?

But Lorrie's Engine starts easily, runs smoothly and except for the slight and quite random "womps" in the exhaust note, and this cyclic vibration, she seems to have a happy Engine.

Am going to do some research on this situation to see if it is a problem, and if it is, what can be done to mitigate it.

Any comments about this would be appreciated.

Isn't this FUN you guys?

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Thursday Evening Update:

Did some research on the cause of vibration in an Engine. One of the websites said the first thing to check would be the Spark Plugs.

So pulled, cleaned, regapped to 0.035", and reinstalled each of Lorrie's Spark Plugs.

The vibration didn't go away, but it changed.

Instead of it being a twelve second cycle from no vibration to vibration and back to no vibration, it is now an intermittent vibration going from no vibration back to no vibration.

BUT the strange thing is that only happens in P and N.

When the Transmission is in R, D, 2, or 1, there is no vibration.

Also, the little "womp" type miss is gone. The Exhaust note is smooth with no "puffs".

As soon as they can be afforded, will get Lorrie a new set of Spark Plugs.

Anyway, it has been a pleasant afternoon.

Hope you all are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Are you using extended tip spark plugs?


Extended tip spark plugs tend to smooth things out........

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Hey Mr. E,
No. Am using the Champio equivalent of N11Y, which is what the Dodge Manual says to use.
What sould be asked for to get the extended tip Spark Plug?

Wouldn't this be a hotter Spark Plug?

Notice that you're in Southern California. I grew up in Ontario, California. Have worked all over that area.

Will be getting NEW Spark Plugs probably next week.

Anyway, thanks for the tip.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Champion spark plugs have been of poor quality for years, and are growing poorer and poorer.

#11 is a very cold plug, apt to foul. It was specified for the truck slant-6s because with the service conditions (long periods of idle/low-speed operation interspersed with heavy throttle hauling to get a fully loaded truck up to speed) lead-fouling was a problem with leaded gasoline. Which we no longer have, so the old spark plug spec is no longer apposite.

Use NGK #ZFR5N spark plug, stock number 3459. Quantity six, gap 0.035", remove the metal ring washers before installing the plugs.

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Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

With electronic ignition, I'd use a .040 gap....

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes