Bill, you have certainly had some good times at races in the past, but also keep in mind, that even in your 57 years of being involved with it, nothing you have ever done has prepared you for a turbo car. There is absolutely nothing in common to them that you have experienced before. Its like comparing an 8-track tape to a CD. While this car might not be as fast as others you have previously raced, everything from the engine build to car and suspension setup to staging the car is 180° from anything you have done before, and your earlier experiences don't even apply to this application. So basically, you are starting from scratch. Sure you can still go out and have fun, and im sure the costs of things have increased from the 1970's also, but the technology is completely different as well, and thats what you need to understand. Everyone here is wanting to see you go out and go fast and meet your goals that you have set for this project. But its going to be more of a challenge than you are realizing.

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There's no such thing as too much cam....only not enough engine!

Bill, I know very well who you are and what you used to do. I have seen your inane rants on Classracer for years.

I am merely trying to help you avoid going down a road that will cost you a lot of time and money before you arrive at the idea you need to do something different. I have worked with turbo cars before, and they are very hard to stage, get boosted, cut a decent reaction time, and be consistant off a foot brake, especially if the car is fast. WOT is simply out of the question.

You are more than welcome to do it any way you can and prove me wrong. My feelings won't be hurt.

There are many ways to land an airplane too, but only one is survivable for passengers and plane both.

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DOUBLE POST; SORRY...

Thanks for that. It is well-taken.

I fully realize that I am a "babe-in-the-woods" here, never having had a slant six car before, or any kind of turbocharged car at all.

I do have a '72 Valiant with a supercharged (Vortech-centrifugal) 360 Magnum/904, that I have been fooling around with for a couple of years, but I don't think there's much carryover from that engine to a slant-six turbo. Too many differences...

I have had a lot of help from some experienced turbo slant six guys in selecting the parts, (cam grind, and induction-system,) particularly from Tom Wolfe (Shaker223.) He has saved me tons of money and kept me from gong down the wrong path on more than one occasion. Kudos to Tom..

Our engine is a close copy of his, and should run similarly, IF we can get the thing tuned somewhere in the ballpark. Tom built the blow-thru, 4150 Holley double-pumper carburetor for us (identical mdifications to his,) and has helped us with a whole variety of decisions regarding how to tune the engine, etc.

If this thing runs ANYTHING like his car, it will be the fastest car I have ever been involved with.

If it doesn't SHAME ON US!!!

Ryan Peterson's turbo'd '66 Valiant has ben a constant source of inspiration; just watched his Youtube video for the 800th time... 127 MPH!!! Incredible!

I really DO apppreciate all the help from people with experience. If I seem argumentative, it's only because I am a hard-headed old fool who thinks logic is the only way... and, maybe, sometimes it's not.

We're working on wiring now, and have the fuel system finished and operational.

Shouldn't take TOO much longer... I hope. Been workin' on this turkey for 3 years, now... That should be long enough!

Thanks again for all the help!

Bill, in Conway, Arkansas

Just use one of these.

http://www.ams1000.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=65

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxRmoDgsdY
Chassis dyno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd6hFGzLJMc

Thanks, Tom;

I'll look into it. I aleady have a "conventional" boost controller that allows full boost before the waste gate begins to open. Is this different?

Bill, a converter stalls at a certain RPM relative to engine torque, car weight, and brake holding power. A 2 step/ limiter randomly drops cylinders which intermittently kills engine torque.

An engine at stall speed with no limiter will try to keep revving up at WOT and will overpower the brakes and or break something.

A limiter will take away enough torque to allow the brakes to hold, or keep the car from eating parts if you have a trans brake.

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Robert, or whatever your name is, you were good until you got to "car weight."

The same converter with the same engine and state of tune, will stall (full throttle) at the same RPM in ANY car, regardless of the car's weight. How do you think a hydraulic mechanism such as a torque converter could possibly know what kind (how heavy) of a car it was in, before it has even moved it (remember; it's at stall)????

Brake holding power is, of course, a critical function but for the sake of this discussion, it was assumed that the brakes would always hold 100-percent; otherwise it's impossible to even have a discussion; the car rolls through the lights and no arguments are possible,

I can't disagree with anything else you said; it's all true. I go along with all of that 100-percent.

However, that still doesn't tell me what happpens to the stall speed when using a 2-step, the cool air from the cylinders that mis-fired due to the rev limiter, hits the turbo exhaust impeller.

Don't you agree that, since HEAT is what drives that impeller, making boost and power (and more stall speed,) the LACK of that heat will slow it down and I'll lose boost?

THAT is what bothers me.

What do you think about that?

Bill. in Conway, Arkansas

I don't think you'd see enough "cool air" to notice any difference. I've seen a lot of turbo cars on 2 steps. Doesn't seem to hurt tham at all.

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Bill there's a bunch of info on 2 steps and transbrakes on the turbo forums it may be time you start trolling them sites you should probably get used to them anywise once you start tuning that beast there's some great info on that site and some ever knowledgeable individuals

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http://youtu.be/2Y4i4UOLiSA

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/sho ... p?t=126611

Good advice3; I'll take it, Aaron! Thanks.

Oh; can you give me a link?

I that turns out to be true in our case, you'll surely see one on our car!!!

Thanks, 'Zilla!