Hey Richard,
Alas, the Galaxie has a Mallory Ignition. One end of the Coil Wire is INSIDE the Ignition Coil Case, and the other end has a HEI Fitting, neither of which would fit Lorrie's Ignition Coil OR Distributor.

Probably the NEXT thing to get for Lorrie is a complete NEW set of Spark Plug Wires.

Am confident that this NEW Coil Wire will solve the problem, and that we will be getting Lorrie's NEW Inspection Sticker tomorrow.

Anyway, thanks for the tip.

Hope you are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Mr. H,
The Condenser that is in Lorrie is only a couple of months old.

If the NEW Coil Wire doesn't solve the problem, and there is spark getting to the NEW Coil Wire, replacing the Condenser is the NEXT thing.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Ummm Yeah I think I hear Muttley now I have not thought of that dog in years : lol :

Already 102 here and rising... @ LEAST predicted high is only 104 today, was 105 yesterday, of course thats somewhat better than the high last year, which was 111.
Thats good, and no problemo, thats what we are here for, cept SSD, and he is around to give small bits and pieces when we ALL get stuck...

Well maybe a coil wire change and she will be in the "mood". Have a good afternoon and stay cool....

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Hey Dusty,
That "wheezy" laugh used to just crack me up.
Same here. It's just too hot for comfort.
Am hoping that it will snow here soon.
Well, you all do a wondrous job of helping. It's encouraging to say the least.
Robert's wife Rita just delivered the Coil Wire. It's EXACTLY what was needed. Am going to go out and install it in a bit and see if Lorrie will start.

Will keep you all updated.

JC

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Hey All,
Something REALLY weird is going on.

Installed the NEW Coil Wire. Tried to start Lorrie's Engine. It wouldn't start.

Just took the NEW Coil Wire off and tested it with the Multi-Tester.

GOT NO CONTINUITY.

Can touch both Probes of the Multi-Tester to the same metal fitting on one end and it shows a "short" which is continuity, so it's not that the Probes are not making contact.

But the NEW Coil Wire is not going to conduct electricity.

QUESTION: Is there any way that a Coil could burn up a Coil Wire in just a few seconds of cranking an Engine?

Should have checked the continuity of the Coil Wire BEFORE installing it

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

JC, before ASSUMING you have that bad of luck, I would do a check on the points, make sure they are set correctly (breaking and creating spark) not for sure how hard the dist is to get to in Lorrie but thats what i would check first... you can usually kind of test the coil in this way also as was mentioned earlier... making and breaking connection checking for output of the coil....

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Hey Dusty,
Did that yesterday. They are working just fine. They open to .024".
Don't know for SURE that they are "creating spark", but they ARE opening properly.
The Distributor is quite accessible once the removable Floor is out of the way.
Well Dusty, a REAL lesson has been learned today...

Did you know that if you use a Multi-Meter to check an Ignition Coil Wire, or a Spark Plug Wire for continuity, you will get an "OPEN" Circuit reading and NOT a "SHORT" reading?

BUT, if you will set the Multi-Meter to measure K-Ohms of Resistance, that an Ignition Coil Wire will register resistance in the Wire.

The NEW Ignition Coil Wire that is here reads 6.71K Ohms of resistance, but shows an OPEN Circuit when tested for continuity.

Not only THAT, but Spark Plug Wires will also NOT show continuity, but will register two to three times the resistance of an Ignition Coil Wire.

So in actuality, there was nothing wrong with Lorrie's OLD Coil Wire.

When holding the Distributor end of the Ignition Coil Wire near a ground, and cranking the Engine, there was NO spark evident.

This is an indication that the Ignition Coil is bad.

JC

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change condensor ...have seen bad out the box....seen them go bad without notice

Hey Mr. H,
Have just checked Ms. American's ORIGINAL Ignition Coil.

Here are the readings:
From the "+" Terminal to the "-" Terminal, there are 1.8K Ohms of resistance.
From the "+" Terminal to the Coil Wire Terminal, there are 8.18K Ohms of resistance.
From the Coil Wire Terminal to the "-" Terminal, there are 8.18 K Ohms of resistance.

Have just removed and checked Lorrie's Ignition Coil.

Here are the readings:
From the "+" Terminal to the "-" Terminal, there are 1.8K Ohms of resistance.
From the "+" Terminal to the Coil Wire Terminal, there are 9.47K Ohms of resistance.
From the Coil Wire Terminal to the "-" Terminal, there are 9.48K Ohms of resistance.

So it apparently ISN'T the Ignition Coil.

It HAS to be in the Distributor.

Have checked the Distributor Points. They open to .023" gap which is what the Tune-Up Specifications says they should be.

Installed a NEW Condenser when we first tried to start Lorrie's mighty 225 Slant Six Engine just a couple of months ago.

BUT, as you said: "Have seen bad out the box....seen them go bad without notice."

Am going to reinstall Lorrie's Ignition Coil.

Will then examine the Distributor yet once again to see if everything is as it should be there. If it is, and if Lorrie STILL won't start, will acquire a NEW Condenser today, and install it tomorrow morning.

Weather here is overcast, and 100% Humidity. It isn't all that hot out, but it is just sweltering to be outside. It took about ten minutes to remove Lorrie's Ignition Coil, and in those ten minutes, I got just soaking wet from perspiration.

Anyway, thanks for the assistance.

JC

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I agree, the coil isn't out of spec. I was actually wanting you to check not the gap of breaker points (but which isnt a bad thing to do @ this point) but to check if you are getting SPARK when they break open.. you can break them open with a screwdriver while they are in closed postion with the key in run position. That checks if they are getting current and also if the condensor is working... if its not sparking the points change the condensor first. I'd bet a dollar to a donut, that the condensor has failed.....

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I have had points with a "short" in the hinge part, which came and went as it felt like...

That was quite interesting to figure out.

Now, I don't remember how the wire from the points are routed out of the slant distributor housing... but maybe that is a spot you should take a look at?

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I have no idea what I am talking about.

Hey Dusty,
Am going to reinstall Lorrie's Ignition Coil.
Am going to do this right after the Ignition Coil is reinstalled.
Alright.
Alright.
Alright.
Am going to check that. Will have a NEW Condenser this evening.

Anyway, thanks for the assistance.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey Mr. RC,
How do you find out if it's a short in the hinge part of the points?
The wire exits the Side of the Distributor through a Grommet, and goes to the Ignition Coil's "-" Terminal. Will check that Wire for continuity.

Hope YOU are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

To be honest... I was just lucky, and saw a little spark in there, while the wife was cranking the engine over.
Ah, ok, thanks!

Hope YOU are well.

JC

Hope you are doing ok too!

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I have no idea what I am talking about.

Hey Mr. RC,
But at least you got it fixed!

This morning, took the Distributor Cap off of the Distributor Body. Cranked the Engine, and there was NO SPARK in the Points Gap.!

Checked the Start and Run Circuits from the Positive Post of the Battery to the "+" Terminal of the Ignition Coil with first the Start Switch and then the Run Switch activated. There is PERFECT continuity.

Checked the Wire from the "-" Terminal of the Ignition Coil to the Distributor. There is PERFECT continuity.

Checked the Ballast Resistor. There is PERFECT continuity.

Have removed the Condenser and Points from the Distributor.

Have checked the Points. They are not burned, pitted, nor do they have excessive wear. There is continuity when the Points are closed, and the circuit goes "OPEN" when the Points are opened.

Checked the Condenser.

The Troubleshooting Guide says:
So here is what happens when THAT is done: The Multi-Meter is connected to the Body, and to the End of the PigTail of the Condenser. It is then turned on and set to register K Ohms. It sometimes registers "Infinity". It sometimes begins to put up numbers in the 300s, but it SHOULD register Infinity all the time. It does NOT do this.

The Troubleshooter Guide says that if ANY READING OTHER THAN INFINITY is noted, the Condenser should be replaced.

Am going to call NAPA and get a couple of NEW Condensers which will have Rita pick up and deliver them here this evening. Will install one of them tomorrow morning.

Hopefully this will solve Lorrie's problem.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor