Hey All,
Am getting two NEW Tires for Lorrie Van Haul's Front Axle.

Will be taking one of the Tires presently on Lorrie's Front Axle and having it mounted on a Dodge Wheel to serve as Lorrie's Spare Tire.

Had the Tire that was on the Dodge Wheel removed today, and am cleaning, and prepping the Wheel for painting to have it ready when the NEW Tires arrive next Tuesday or Wednesday.

In the process of prepping the Wheel, some numbers stamped on the Wheel became apparent.

Some are on the Rim near the Valve Stem Hole, and others are stamped on the bosses around the Lug Holes.

Did a Google Search for information regarding those Stamped Numbers, but found nothing.

Does anyone know of a website that might decode those Numbers? Can supply pictures if that would help.

Ms. American 3.14159, the ONLY 1964 Ford Galaxie 500, Four-Door, Hard-Top, Fast-Back, Police Interceptor that Google finds on the whole World Wide Web has five Kelsey Hayes Severe Service Wheels which is part of the Police Interceptor Package.

But this Stock Dodge Wheel is quite a bit heavier than the KH SS Wheels on the 3.14.

Any information regarding this matter would be GREATLY appreciated.

Hope you all are well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Here are JPGs of Lorrie's Spare Wheel:

The first two are of the Front and Back of the Wheel:





And here are the Numbers stamped into the Wheel

















There are some more Numbers stamped on the Bosses at the Center of the Wheel, but I forgot to take JPGs of them.

Anyway, the Wheel has been cleaned with an assortment of Wire Brush Wheels in the Craftsman Electric Drill. There are some places that couldn't be reached. Then the whole Wheel has been washed with Mineral Spirits in preparation for priming, and then painting.

Am going to paint the part that is inside the Tire Gloss White (because that's the rattle can color of which there is the most paint.

Then the Front and Back of the Wheel will be painted to match the Wheels that are presently ON Lorrie which is a Greyish shade of Purple.

The NEW Tires should be in on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Will keep you all updated.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

"CANADA" = safe bet it was made in Canada
"15x6.5" = 15 inch rim diameter, 6.5 inch rim width. Standard 15 inch rim.
"JJ" = ??? I have seen that on many Mopar rims. Don't know what it means.
"4238040" = Looks suspiciously like a part number. In fact, 4238050 is the part number for a 15 by 7, 5.5 inch bolt circle rim in my 1983 Dodge parts book (which raises an interesting question in and of itself- I thought Dodge didn't go to the 5x5.5 bolt pattern on wheels until 86. Maybe it was for the four wheel drive models?). 4238 045, 047, and 043 are also part numbers for various 15 inch rims in the 1983 parts book.
"DOT 9 23 K21" = Stamp of DOT approval and some sort of date code or DPT regulatory compliance stamp?
"T15x6.5" = In case you missed the other stamp, this is a 15x6.5 inch rim.
"Pentastar K2 upsidedown 1" = ? Internal parts reference?
"3 81 N" = A number that bolsters my suspicion that you actually have a later year rim. The bumps on the hub between the lug bolt holes is a design change I see typically in 80s era Dodge trucks and vans, but not in the 60s and 70s era Mopar rims. Is there any chance that somewhere along the line a rims from a later year truck or van was added to Lorrie's set? Perhaps a wheel from a 1981 or 82 vehicle?

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Hey Reed,
Lorrie has gone multinational!
Just as I thought.
Have a good friend who is on the Internet as Gordon Murl, whose REAL name is John Jones, but no one believes it. So am going to just say that JJ stands for John Jones and let it go at that.
Very interesting.
More regulations.
These stampings are all over the place.
Found another Pentastar, but when looking for it again, couldn't find it.
Why am I not surprised?
Alright.
Actually Reed, when Lorrie got her Deck Plate Bumpers and Front Fenders, all of the Stock Wheels were removed and a set of American Racing Wagon Wheels were put on with spiffy NEW Tires. Lorrie was parked in an enclosed area, and someone STOLE the Tires and Wheels.

Had already sold the five Dodge Wheel, and so in order to move Lorrie, four Wheels and four used Tires were bought. Lorrie was moved and the insurance company bought her four NEW American Racing Wagon Wheels and NEW Tires. And one of the Used Wheels and Tires was saved for a Spare and that is from whence THIS Wheel came.
Had no idea at the time. All that mattered was that the Bolt Pattern fit.

Lorrie's Spare Wheel has been given a coat of self etching primer, and the part that is inside the Tire has been painted Gloss White. The Wheel is ready to be painted.

Am going to let it sit overnight and do the painting in the morning.

Anyway, thanks for the information.

Hope you are having a GREAT weekend.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

JJ is the shape of the wheel flange at the bead

http://www.cdxetextbook.com/steersusp/w ... sizes.html


No idea of what the actual differences are.....

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

About 1/3 of the way down:

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg4.html

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

Thanks for those links! I never knew there were so many different designs of wheel rim beads.

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Casually looking for a Clifford hyperpak intake for cheap.

"DOT" is not an approval mark -- there is no such thing as "DOT approval". It's the manufacturer's certification mark, shorthand for "We promise this wheel meets all relevant provisions of all applicable Federal safety standards".

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AH! Now that I think about it, it would be rather unrealistic and ridiculous to suppose that the DOT would actually inspect and stamp a mark of approval on every single rim manufactured. A manufacturers regulatory compliance promise mark makes much more sense.

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Casually looking for a Clifford hyperpak intake for cheap.

Not ridiculous -- Type Approval is the way auto safety compliance is managed in a whole lot of countries throughout the world including all of Europe and Scandinavia and Japan and Korea and China and Taiwan and a bunch of other countries. Under that system, the maker of a vehicle or regulated component submits it to an accredited lab for compliance testing. If it passes, it gets a type approval number (which the maker marks permanently on every copy of that item) authorizing it for sale wherever that type approval is recognised. For example, what started out as the European system of reciprocal recognition of type approvals -- Italy, France, Germany, Spain, the UK, Sweden, etc. all treated each others' approvals as equivalent to their own -- is now much bigger than Europe; it's used or at least recognised throughout most of the industrialised world. Except the US, of course.

The US has its own system of regulations and does not recognise the international-consensus ones everyone else uses. Not only are the regs different, but the system by which they're administered is different. Ours work on a self-certification system: the manufacturer or importer of an item of regulated motor vehicle equipment certifies (promises) that the equipment complies with all applicable provisions of all applicable regulations. Some of the regulations contain requirements for an explicit physical mark denoting this certification (such as the "DOT" marking on a headlamp lens). There is no prior testing or approval required -- the manufacturer or importer gets to decide what's enough to satisfy himself that his product meets the requirements. If a pile of dead bodies or twisted metal suggests maybe a part wasn't compliant, then the DOT may choose to get involved and do some testing, and if the item is found not to comply for whatever reason — improper design or manufacture, faulty materials, whatever — then the maker or importer is subject to obligations such as recall and replacement as well as very high civil-penalty fines of many thousands of dollars per violation, where "one violation" means one brake hose, one seat belt, one headlamp, one tire, etc. If a company sells ten thousand noncompliant tires, that's ten thousand violations. You may remember that outfit in New Jersey that got busted a few years ago for importing enormous numbers of noncompliant exploding tires from China. Their workaround to that pesky nuisance was to declare bankruptcy and close up shop, then open up for business again under a new name. The Feds couldn't touch 'em. And that's only one way to cheat in a self-certification system; there are many others.

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Hey All,
Sunday Morning Update:

Have gotten Lorrie's Spare Wheel painted already this morning.

It is drying even a this is being typed.

It is going to get a second coat this afternoon or maybe tomorrow morning.

About the previously mentioned "design flaw":

On the Port side of the Dash Panel is where all the Wires that are connected to the Switches and Gauges exit into the Engine Cabinetry. That area is open and the day before yesterday, having just returned from the Tire Shop, it was noticed that the Dash Board was quite warm to the touch. Turns out that the heat from the Radiator AND from the Engine is entering the interior of the Dash Panel and exiting it on the Starboard end which is open. That HOT air not only heats all the Gauges, but it gets into Lorrie's interior.

Am going to have to put a "baffle" in the Port End of the Dash, with some way for all the Wires to come through without the HOT air being able to go through the Dash Panel. Am tending to think that a two piece wooden baffle, with just enough hole in it for the Wires to pass through will fix the problem.

But it may not be that simple.

Will just have to wait and see when the time comes to deal with it arrives which will have to be soon.

There is also ANOTHER feature that needs to be addressed: That is HOW to secure the Spare Tire and Wheel to Lorrie's Starboard Wall just above the Right Rear Wheel Well.

There HAD been a Metal Plate with a long threaded Rod welded to it, welded to the upright Formers on the Starboard Wall.

It was removed so that the Wall could be insulated and paneled.

It now has to be reattached.

Am thinking that cutting away just enough of the paneling for the Metal Plate to be recessed and mounted against the upright Formers with Sheet Metal Screws would be sufficient.

The Sheet Metal Screws would NOT be carrying any "shear" weight as the Spare would be sitting ON the top of the Right Rear Wheel Well with the Threaded Rod through one of the Lug Holes in the Spare Wheel and a large NUT holding the Spare in place.

Am going to have to clean up the Plate&Rod Bracket and paint it. Figuring where to put it will have to be done AFTER the Spare Tire is mounted on the Wheel and put into place so that the Paneling can be marked and cut to accommodate the Bracket.

Am thinking that there is going to be an almost constant stream of things to which attention will NEED to be given as Lorrie is driven more and more, revealing issues that need fixing.

Am still trying to ascertain the BEST way to START Lorrie up in the morning.

So far, it has taken three stabs on the Throttle to get enough fuel to the Cylinders for her to fire up, but have been afraid of just pumping the throttle out of fear of flooding the Engine.

But when Lorrie finally DOES decide to start, she does it SO nicely, and she INSTANTLY settles into an idle that is amazingly smooth and quiet.

Lorrie and I are having to get to "KNOW" each other again.

Anyway, the Spare Wheel has coming out looking BRAND SPANKING NEW!

Will have some JPGs of it when it is finished, and some more when the Tire is mounted on it and all cleaned with Armorall Tire Dressing.

Hope this finds YOU all doing well.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Hey All,
Got the second coat of paint on Lorrie's Spare Wheel.

Got the Bracket that the Spare will attach to cleaned, primed, and painted.

Am all ready to get the NEW Tires on Tuesday or Wednesday.

Will be mounting the Bracket as soon as the Spare is available to see where to mount it.

Also, started Ms. American 3.14159 up this morning. She took three spritzes of Starting Fluid to finally get going.

Found that the ants have decided to explore the interior of the old Gal. Sprayed some insecticide inside and closed the door, then put the plastic and tarp back over her. Hpe that THAT writes "finis" to the ant invasion. We'll see.

Anyway, things are moving along at a bewildering pace.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor

Put down the can of starting fluid. That stuff wreaks havoc on the inside of an engine. I've seen a diesel with a split piston because it was always started with ether.

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02 Dakota-3.9/5 speed
87 GMC C7000-8.2 Detroit Diesel/5+2

Correct procedure for an engine-cold start: Press accelerator all the way to the floor, then release and take your foot off. Turn the key. Let go of the key when the engine starts.

If it has been a long time (more than a couple weeks) since the last startup, press the accelerator to the floor twice then take your foot away and crank.

If the engine does not start up and run with this procedure, the choke is not operating correctly and/or you've got fuel supply problems (fuel draindown through leaky fuel pump valves, fuel boiloff out of carburetor).

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Hey Jeb,
Haven't been using Starting Fluid on Lorrie Van Haul, but HAVE been using it VERY judiciously on Ms. American 3.14159 who is, since Lorrie is Up&Running due to have a BUNCH of work done on her. But to keep HER Up&Running, have been starting her up ever other, or every third day, bringing her up to operating temperature and making sure that she is able to sit and idle smoothly.

The 3.14 has an ancient Holley 4150 with a botched Accelerator Pump, which is going to be replaced with a completely restored Autolite 4100, along with a bunch of other work. It is this Accelerator Pump that makes it to where she needs a bit of a boost to get enough fuel to the cylinders, thus the use of a minimum amount of Quick Start. Am hoping that when the work on the old Galaxie is done that it won't be necessary to use the Starting Fluid.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up.

JC

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Lorrie Van Haul - 1967 Dodge - P200 Post Office Vehicle - 225 Slant Six - Torqueflite A727 Automatic Transmission - Right Hand Drive Steering - Big Three HEI System - Frantz Oil Cleaner System - Bendix Stromberg Model W Carburetor