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 Post subject: 2.2 Turbo Pistons
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:41 am 
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I read where using Dodge 2.2 Tubo pistons on 198 CI slant 6 rods can provide a nice set-up although the comment I read had no specifics or details. Are any of you running this and if so, how is it working for you and how are you using it (street only street / race, etc)? These pistons appear to be dished. With that in mind, what have you done with deck height / quench?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:51 pm 
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I have built many of these engines ("long rod" 225's) and they are all working well.
The 18 cc dish "Turbo get you around 8 to 1 compression.
The "non-turbo" version, with the smaller dish or "valve groove" gets you in the 9 to 1 range.
A flat top piston at zero deck get you over 11 to 1 compression.
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Is there a materials or strength advantage to the turbo piston? Or is it just purely the dish size that differs?

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The piston material and over-all construction changes with each manufacturer.
With the Silvolite 2.2 pistons, there is the 1290H, 1291H & 1292, the first 2 ("H") are hypereutectic material and the 1292 is not. None of these have steel expansion control struts.
The factory 2.2 pistons have the steel struts but unknown material alloy.
The KB239 & 268 are also Hyper with no struts but use a special heat treatment for added hardness.

The Wiseco units are forged pistons and there were also forged TRW and Sealed Power units, that are now discontinued but some still "pop-up" now and again.

For a "budget" street build, the KB units are a good choice but more $$ then the Silvolite units. The Wiseco forged pistons are also a great value.
Shop around....
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See http://www.kb-silvolite.com/kb_car/perf ... s&P_id=133


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:13 pm 
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One down side that I've come across with the 2.2 pistons is the price for a good set of rings, being that we need two sets of them.
I've been looking into using something different for my next build.

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There are a number of less expensive options.
See this thread:
http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25197
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Thanks doc I've already crossed reference some of them ring sets looks like you can use some of the Toyota 6 sets if i remember correctly you need 1.5 1.5 4,for my next build I got 2.5 turbo pistons and 198 rods

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:16 am 
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One down side that I've come across with the 2.2 pistons is the price for a good set of rings, being that we need two sets of them.
I've been looking into using something different for my next build.
you will only need one set of rings if ordered for a late model 3.0 toyota v6 engine- 1990 toyota pickup will be the right stuff- this is what I used- these rings must be file fitted first though as the ring gap was very narrow out of the box


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