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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:10 pm 
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Don't despair... I have a spare BBS that I've kept around for parts. I just checked and it does have the choke pull-off linkage, but i sent the big machine screw to someone a while back.

If you want the pull-off linkage, send me a PM with your shipping info and I'll send it to you (if you pay the shipping).
PM sent!!! Batting .500 will get ya a major league contract in a heartbeat. Thanks, Josh!

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Anything to help out a fellow slant sixer.

P.S. Love the baseball reference!

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Well, folks I was getting pretty frustrated, but then I went to the junk box for inspiration. You'd never guess what I found...

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The too short choke plate screw & an old .45 case...

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Add solder, heat, & patience...

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And NOW I can set the curb idle!!!
I'm kinda proud of my East Texas back country engineering!

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....I think this carb doesn't look hacked or abused from what we can see in the pics. It's missing the link between the choke pull-off and the choke lever, and the choke thermostat pushrod (coming up from the thermostat housing on the exhaust manifold) has been brutalised, but both of those are easy to replace. I'd keep this carb, replace the missing pull-off link, install a new choke assembly, and rebuild the carb.
An update to my post based on learning a lot about the Carter BBS, this Carter BBS, rebuild kits, rebuilders, and other stuff. My pictures didn't show the distortion/bowing of the ears on the main body and bowl cover where the screws were tightened by a gorilla. I didn't notice this until I looked at a rebuilt carb I bought. A decision made in haste that confirmed Dan's opinion of rebuilt carbs.

The rebuilt I bought looked really pretty, clean and with the choke pulloff link in place. What wasn't in place was the clip on the accelerator pump rod that opens the bowl vent. Fortunately there was one in the rebuild kit I bought. With that oversight rectified, The only issue left (that I have found, so far) is the choke thermostat. The spring is not broken and the rod moves freely, but the rod had been brutalized! I haven't seen a picture of an unmolested choke t'stat rod, so I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Is it supposed to be dead straight, or bent by some specification that I also haven't found. If it's supposed to be straight, I can make it straight with my Harbor Freight anvil (the one thing I've bought there that didn't soon need returned or repaired) and my B.F.H. Thanks to all for the advice, tips, choke pulloff link (extra thanks to Joshua P.) and all the rest.

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Early Dart Disorder (EDD) is real, and I've got it!


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Keep an eye on Ebay for parts carburetors, I found one listed earlier this year for 20 bucks. I have already used a part from it on my carb on the 64 Dart. It is nice to have spare parts on hand when you are missing something from a 50 year old cars carb.

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1. A BBS with distorted bowl and cover ears can work for years. Just keep those parts together as a set.

2. Some of the early, original choke thermostat rods were straight, but most of the universal replacements had a "U" in the middle, to permit length adjustment. The rod should be perpendicular to the choke pivot, and should move freely through its full range at the thermostat end. Adjust the "U" for length.

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Thanks, Street Mechanic. I am keeping that old carb as you suggest. It's got all the bits and pieces and I have some leftover parts from the repair kit. I'm going ahead with the rebuilt that I bought and repaired, but heck - nothin' wrong with having a spare!

I spent some time working most of the kinks out of the choke rod, but left a "z" that I can use for length adjustment. I think with the carb and choke properly mounted and the engine cold, the choke plate should be held fully closed. And the length of the choke rod can be adjusted to do that. Please correct me if that's incorrect.

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I spent some time working most of the kinks out of the choke rod, but left a "z" that I can use for length adjustment.
If there's a "Z" in your choke pushrod, it's bent beyond redemption. Install a new choke thermostat assembly.

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If there's a "Z" in your choke pushrod, it's bent beyond redemption. Install a new choke thermostat assembly.
Well, the "Z" in the pushrod is a moot point now. One of the sigs I used years ago online was "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it IS!.

I've done that, and sent email to CarbsOnly, Dan. Are you still using the original unit you first wrote about in '05? Pretty good longevity, I'd say! Thanks for the write up, and the ongoing help.

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Early Dart Disorder (EDD) is real, and I've got it!


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Or look at this if you're interested to try it yourself; this is the first time I've seen such a tool on offer. If I'm not mistaken, the BBS carb uses a 5/16" throttle shaft. But you'd have to want to do it yourself a lot; the tool is $200. :shock:
THANKS Dan..... :wink:

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