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 Post subject: Signal Lever is Broke?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:19 pm 
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My signal lever broke the other day :( i assume the lever is OK and the signal switch is what needs to be replaced...I've never pulled a steering wheel before is that a pretty simple thing to do?

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Is lever just flopping around?

It could be as simple as a loose lever attachment screw.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:18 am 
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Yes, the lever is flopping around...i assume what it attaches to on the signal switch is probably plastic and that's what may be broke? I guess either way i will have to pull the steering wheel to find out

I'm not sure how it connects to the signal switch...

Have you ever dealt with this problem? Or pulled a steering wheel?

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Pulling the wheel is not hard, but you need a puller to do it. Remove the horn ring with screws from behind, remove the large center nut, then attach the puller to the two taped holes in the wheel. Then turn the large center bolt that will press down on the center post and pull the wheel off. Pullers are not expensive. But you can rent one if you don't wish to buy.

I suspect tightening the screw that holds this lever on will fix things.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:03 am 
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Thanks for the info...

I have a harmonic balancer/steering wheel type of puller. Do you think that will work out alright?

Sounds like it may not be too bad of a fix especially if it's just the screw needing to be re-tightened.

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I have a harmonic balancer/steering wheel type of puller. Do you think that will work out alright?

Sounds like it may not be too bad of a fix especially if it's just the screw needing to be re-tightened.
Yes, if the balancer puller is the type that allows 2 bolts to pull the wheel you are good to go.

Be forewarned that of you find the plastic/nylon switch mechanism has actually broken you will have to remove the whole column so you can disassemble and fish the switch wires through the column properly (would be good to have a service manual that shows the exploded view of the column). I've done several of these and it's not hard, but it easiest if you can lay the parts out in order so you can put them back together in reverse.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:48 am 
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Be forewarned that of you find the plastic/nylon switch mechanism has actually broken you will have to remove the whole column so you can disassemble and fish the switch wires through the column properly (would be good to have a service manual that shows the exploded view of the column).
WOW! Now that could be a task... :( I have the oem service manual for the truck. I'm thinking that if the switch is broken and i would have to remove the whole column. That for now, i might just cut into the signal switch wiring harness and wire it to a switch for the turn signals.

I'll have to see how it goes...it will be a couple of days before i can pull the steering wheel

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I always thought you could get away with replacing the cam with one from Help!
http://www.finddormanhelp.com/#
They have them listed under Interior then steering column components.
This usually fixes the floppy lever deal.

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You’re making this more complicated than necessary. Nine times out of ten the screw securing lever backs off resulting in a flopping mess. Pick up a steering wheel puller, a cheap one will do for home use, it will make the job real easy, and nothing will get busted from any BFH action.

If you find the directional light switch to be sloppy and worn, the best longest lasting fix is to replace the whole thing with a new unit.

No need to remove column when replacing directional switch. Just attach a pull string on old wire harness before removing old switch so it can be used to install new switch’s harness; this aint rocket science. You will first have to remove wires from plastic six or eight conductor connector before extracting old wires.

Start with the simple fix first than work up to a full frame-off restoration…LOL

A drop of blue Locktite on that screw will prevent future problems.

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I don't think you have to pull the wheel to tighten that screw. Didn't the steering wheels have a hole in them so a screwdriver shaft could extend down and reach the screw? I thought mine did - accessible once removing the horn cap.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:32 am 
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Right now, i have all of the dash components removed so that will help make it easier if i have to replace the signal switch. I'll post the results when i get the time to do it...Thanks for all of the info 8)

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I believe if you pull the horn pad you will find that there is a hole in the steering wheel that will line up with the head of the thrn signal arm retaining screw. You can use a long screwdriver to tighten up the screw that holds the arm to the switch. Pierre is right.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:33 pm 
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Ok, i just got thru fixing it :D and it was just the screw was loose...it would have been nice to have remembered Pierre's comment
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Didn't the steering wheels have a hole in them so a screwdriver shaft could extend down and reach the screw?
Because it does have a hole for tightening the screw...i went ahead and pulled the steering wheel which wasn't hard to do with the harmonic balancer puller and let's me know that it's not hard to do if i want to replace the steering wheel later on

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It looks like the signal switch may be a newer one that the previous owner might have put on. The plastic pieces looked newer and in good shape. I didn't have any locktite on hand this time around but if it comes loose again i'll remove the screw and put some on

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Well, it was a nice easy fix and i didn't have to buy a new signal switch...Thankfully :P another 1 down no telling how many more to go on this older model truck :lol:

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Easy is a good thing!!!

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 Post subject: Broken Signal Lever
PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:30 pm 
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:shock: I have managed to break my signal lever from my D150. I've removed the steering wheel only to find that the nut that holds the lever screw cracked and fell down into the column. Any ideas on where I can get this "nut". It seemed as if it was not just a nut but more like a rectangular piece of cast steel that was threaded. Anyone?


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