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 Post subject: 200-4R conversion
PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:02 pm 
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hello. finally getting some work done. got the 904 pulled and test fit the adapter plate today. so far everything looks good, all the bolt holes are lining up, nicely centered and a nice flush fit against the block. soon i will start a list of parts used along the way.

a side by side view
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test fit adapter
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looks like i won't need to do any trimming or tunnel mods. lots of room in the 84 pickup. the plate and trans bell add quite a bit of width.

more pics at http://s837.photobucket.com/user/akbmot ... conversion

more to come, andy 8)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:53 am 
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904? That looks like a 727 to me. This will be an interesting test case.

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 Post subject: Is it?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:59 am 
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Looking through the starter hole is that the engine rail/bellhousing support bracket?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:16 pm 
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DI, thats the header, the bracket has been removed. hope to be able to put one of some configuration back in that area. i will take some better pics, only had my phone for these pics.

you can see the bottom left of the adapter on right edge of this pic.
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 Post subject: 727?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:26 pm 
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joshua, doesn't the 727 require an adapter?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:43 pm 
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In 1968, Chrysler developed a 727 to fit the Slant 6. I believe that is the trans you have in your photo. Should bolt right up to any Slant. Before 1968, they made factory adapter plates to mount the V8 727.

Thanks for the updates!

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 Post subject: Re: 727?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:20 pm 
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joshua, doesn't the 727 require an adapter?

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Not after 1968 as Lou points out.

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 Post subject: Code?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:13 pm 
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Looks to have been milled, was this done in a HAAS mill? And if so do you have access to the program code?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:28 pm 
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pohlman, sorry for the delayed response. the plate was sourced from http://www.wilcap.com/ in a group buy, part #225-350. i have no idea what machine was used, but it is a nicely made part.

727 it is, thanks for the replies, tag under hood says 904. one last question on this subject, does the 904 and 727 use the same slip yoke?

should get a solid 4 or 5 hours to work on it tomorrow.

test fit to trans.
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 Post subject: No...
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:45 pm 
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727 it is, thanks for the replies, tag under hood says 904. one last question on this subject, does the 904 and 727 use the same slip yoke?
Previous owner probably blew the poor 904 up and put the heavier duty 727 in place...They do not share the same yoke, the 727/most A-833 use the 29/30 spline large yoke and the 904/most 3-spd manual/some A-833OD's use the 26/27 spline small yoke...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:37 pm 
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hello. got the starter modified, adapter plate mounted, crank hub adapter and flex plate mounted and bell housing clearanced for starter. the bore for the lower starter mount is larger than the radius of the starter mount and has quite a bit of play so if using lower mount, be sure to check pinion to ring gear clearance. lower starter mount will not work with rear sump oil pan.

view through lower starter hole from trans side
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think i voided the warranty
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slight amount of grinding here for pinion gear
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adapter and flex plat mounted
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hope to get the trans mounted by the end of the weekrnd.

more to come, andy 8)

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 Post subject: Hmmm...
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:14 pm 
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I would bet it would be easier to find a junkyard late model starter without the nosecone for future installs than grind one off...

Looks good! Keep the pics coming!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:22 pm 
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The 200R4 sounds like a good option.


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 Post subject: update
PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:26 pm 
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hello all. sorry for the slow progress. got the trans mounted and will have the cross member/mount done tomorrow. then i can start on the peripherals.

DI, if you could supply the part number for the late model starter, i will make a note of it when i post the parts list for those to follow, thanks.

everything still going together nicely, fitting well.
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the dipstick, TV cable and cooler lines all connect front right corner, gonna be a snug fit here.
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looks like this is the only access to converter bolts, lower starter hole.
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more to come, andy 8)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:40 am 
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Just out of interest,have you dialled in the alignment between the trans centreline and the crank? Was it good to go or did you need offset dowels?


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