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 Post subject: Brake lines/hoses
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:43 pm 
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I bought some rubber reinforced brake hoses on Ebay - they come from Mexico from memory and they are advertised as to SAE standard.

They are not up to standard - they lasted about 5 years on my Valiant, and I have now replaced them with 'named' brand stock.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:46 pm 
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Read through this thread.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:00 am 
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Which is why I don't buy brake lines from eBay or non-name brand lines; there ARE quality differences out there. (It is just hard to figure out which at times....)


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:15 pm 
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And is why I make them from premium braided SS hose and components. Have been doing so for ~20 years. Ages ago I started covering the raw braid with adhesive lined heat shrink and then sealing that to the fitting with a short section of larger ID adhesive lined heat-shrink to keep road grime and grit from wearing out the braid.

If you've ever dissected a ready made braided SS hose you'll notice the tiny little tube that connects the crimped barrel section to the part that makes the actual connection (banjo fitting, swivel threads, what-ever). It will fail much easier than a typical rubber hose. I'm told that some braided hoses that pass the DOT tests don't have this built-in failure mode, but I've no idea which.

The DOT compliance test is actually three different tests, one of which is a "whip test." The whip test looks like it was specifically designed to fail braided hoses. Braided outperform OE rubber hoses on the other two tests. The good news is that the TUV uses exactly the same set of tests, so if a mfg's hose passes the TUV test they, by default, pass the DOT test. The biggest difference is that the TUV does the testing themselves.
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Again: "Gee, I haven't had a problem so far with my homemade brake lines" is just plain not good enough. It just isn't, and if you cannot or will not understand why not, there's no point in my trying to make you understand.
By the premise of this argument we shouldn't venture out of our concrete bunkers (assuming they don't have Radon gas in them). Sorry, not going to fly with me, don't bother trying.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:31 pm 
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"Gee, I haven't had a problem so far with my homemade brake lines" is just plain not good enough.
By the premise of this argument we shouldn't venture out of our concrete bunkers (assuming they don't have Radon gas in them).
It does not look like you grasp the premise—not even a little bit. If you did, you'd probably not make that kind of apples-to-paperclips comparison.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:44 am 
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I grasp it just fine. I'm just not going to debate it with you or anyone else.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:15 am 
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I grasp it just fine.
If you like! :shrug:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:46 pm 
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I'm not insisting that others do as I do. I'm saying that this is how I do it and why. You can poke and prod all you want, I'm not going to debate it. I'm done here. Find someone else "wrong" on the net to "correct".

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:10 pm 
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I'm sorry you feel prodded. Which part of :shrug: is ambiguous? I'm not interested in trying to stop you using your homemade brake hoses. (In other words: you <i>can't</i> not debate it with me, because <i>I'm</i> not debating it with <i>you</i>! :lol: )

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