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 Post subject: vital signs...
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:25 pm 
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So did you ever determine if it was actually overheating?

Did you smell coolant or anything?

An infrared thermometer is a nice tool to have handy, just aim and shoot for temp readings most anywhere:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/oes-25245/overview/

But I suppose if it's cooling down before you even get off the highway...did you try to reproduce hot reading at high rpms while in park?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:27 pm 
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just for ducks you might want to check for combustion gases in the coolant. if you have a leaking head gasket or water jacket you could be getting those gases into the cooling system and heating up the coolant.

A bit of a stretch but it happened on my flathead without any water leaking into the crankcase or oil into the coolant.

I don't know where you get litmus paper anymore or if it works with coolant but it did with water.

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I haven't road tested with the new gauge, hopefully tomorrow.

I should check the temp with a laser, but it cools down cools down instantly when I slow down. However I was joking with my friend that I should take my hood off and have him sit on the fender and laser the engine as I drive down the freeway... It might yield constructive information.

More update tomorrow.

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Make sure you take pix if you do that!


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:44 pm 
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The gauge was not accurate. I will road test as soon as it dries up outside.

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The gauge was not accurate. I will road test as soon as it dries up outside.
I see a flaw in your plan: you live in Oregon. (quack!)

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Quack indeed! It wont surprise me if that road test occurs in three weeks.

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I test drove the car today. Letting the car idle from a cold start it never tops 160. On the freeway it hovered just shy of 200, coming off the freeway and driving around town it cools back to 190 and after that I let it Idle and it cooled to 185. The outside temperature was in the upper 50's today.

I disconnected the vacuum advance and ran the same route and the results were unchanged. The thermostat is tested and installed correctly. The water pump is good.

The old gauge was bad, but it seems that the car is running warm for these conditions?

Crud in the block? Running too lean? Too much mechanical advance?

By the way this little 170 really pulls, it has more power than I expect and Idles like silk. No pinging either.

Hmm,
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I test drove the car today. Letting the car idle from a cold start it never tops 160. On the freeway it hovered just shy of 200, coming off the freeway and driving around town it cools back to 190 and after that I let it Idle and it cooled to 185.
None of that sounds out-of-line.
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it seems that the car is running warm for these conditions?
I don't agree. Read this.
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Crud in the block? Running too lean? Too much mechanical advance?
Of course it's possible you've got crud in the block or a too-lean mixture (read your spark plugs; what do they say after a highway run?), or exhaust restriction. But any of those, especially lean mixture and exhaust restriction, will tend to cause pronounced ping, and you say you don't get any. Excessive spark advance will cause ping, but not overheating -- insufficient spark advance (retarded spark) will cause overheating.
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By the way this little 170 really pulls, it has more power than I expect and Idles like silk. No pinging either.
Then…drive and enjoy!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:06 pm 
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Good to hear it's all good....Don't forget to check that vac advance canister...seems strange you didn't notice any difference,it could have a leaking diaphragm.


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Thanks Dan! I will drive and enjoy and not worry.

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