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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:07 pm 
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Car Model: 76 D100
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I appreciate the link.

I saw that earlier and described it in my post above as scrungy.

Teeth look chipped, missing o-ring, buggered bracket, dried out, oxidized, rusty....I know those things can be remedied and I don't require perfection, but...

Maybe I'm too fussy. :?
Not to be rude, but you might be right. Or maybe I am just a slob.

Chipped teeth? I don't see any, and really it doesn't matter unless the entire center section is chipped out. Mising O ring? That is a 10¢ part. Dried out, oxidized, and rusty? Well, yeah. It has been sitting on a shelf for a couple decades. That being said, a lube job would be pretty quick and easy and who cares if the distributor body has some white fuzz? As long as the bearings are good and the pickup works, I'll run it. But to each their own. I am tempted to buy that one myself.

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:48 pm 
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Location: Belleville, WI
Car Model: 1984 Ram D150
Arm twisting and cajoling successful, so I guess I'll be returning the Cardone reman.

Anybody know the part number of that o-ring? :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:55 pm 
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O-ring info is here.

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:25 pm 
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Thanking you!


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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:47 pm 
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4091039 is a 1977 slant six distributor.. if it operates correctly (you may need to clean out the petrified grease and relube)...

Should have an 11L governor (should max out at 22 crank degrees at 5000 rpm)...stock vacuum advance is 20 crank degrees >11.5" of vacuum...

If installed I'd set at 8BTDC initial...


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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:57 pm 
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Location: Belleville, WI
Car Model: 1984 Ram D150
I haven't owned a timing light for some years.
Used to have a chromed Craftsman, years ago.
Don't remember where it ran off to...probably OR as I lived there for a decade or so.
Probably ought to replace my missing vacuum guage too (runs off to eBay).

8° BTDC ✓

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:40 am 
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Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:57 pm
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Location: Near Harrisburg PA
Car Model: 1982 D150 /6 AT, PS, MB Regular Cab
I decided to go with the Autoline reman from Rockauto because I want to get this project going and OCPNW had a bad review on fleabay for the distributor I was going to purchase, 3874714:
"Part was misrepresented as NOS. FFFFRAUD Reworked with wrong and missing parts" The auction ended 1/19/18
There was no response from OCPNW to the negative review. Maybe others on here have had a better experience.

The Autoline distributor is not great either. I took it out of the shrink wrapped package and the metal pick up was hitting the reluctor and the bracket had no more adjustment. I was able to pull and bend the pick up back from the reluctor but it is not square with the reluctor. The top is maybe .005" and the bottom is more than .020" away. I don't know if this matters. I also am not sure what the gap is supposed to be. .008" comes to mind for some reason.

My concern is that if they can't get something as seemingly simple as this right what else is not right.

I'm trying to decide if I should send this one back for another one, for a refund and take my chances with OCPNW, or try to tweek this one until it's acceptable. Advise appreciated. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:57 pm 
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I decided to go with the Autoline reman from Rockauto because I want to get this project going
Almost a valid reason, kinda. It'd be a stronger argument if the vehicle were dead/off the road and you needed it running in as big a hurry as possible. But if I'm doing an upgrade project, I'll wait til I can get the best parts. Settling for less means permanent dissatisfaction until I go ahead and buy the parts I should have bought in the first place.
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and OCPNW had a bad review on fleabay
Oh, fer…seriously? This is not a valid reason—not even a particularly good excuse (it's kinda sounded all along like you were looking for, an excuse not to buy the distributor that, um, everyone on here told you to get).

Why is this not a valid reason? Three things: You found one bad feedback out of…let's see here, how many hundred of these distributors OCPNW has sold? To how many buyers who are here on this board and so we know for certain they had a good result, not to mention those buyers who aren't on this board but didn't leave bad feedback? Number one. Number two, if you're going to judge them based on feedback, do a proper job of it: look at their feedback page and you'll see they have a rating of 9221, and 99.6% positive over the last 12 months, with five-star ratings for every category: Item as described, Communication, Shipping time, and Shipping/Handling charges. You'll also see that in the last 12 months they've received 1,036 positive feedbacks and 4 negative feedbacks, that is 3.8 tenths of one percent negative. That's about as close to perfection as can be, because number three: have you ever sold more than a few items on Ebay? I bet not, because if so, you'd know that sooner or later will come the buyer from hell. Chip on their shoulder, not happy unless they're unhappy, bound and determined to have a bad time of life. You could send them a brand-new part, perfect in every way, hermetically sealed in its original carton and kept in climate-controlled storage since 1963 or whatever, and they'd still bitch and moan.

There are at least two sides to every quarrel, and based on my own many years of selling parts, I'd say it's a strong likelihood that the other side of the "review" you found goes something like this: "Customer contacted us after we sent out his distributor, changed his mind and wanted a different one. We advised distributor had already been sent; if he didn't want it he could send it back for a refund. We did not hear from customer for four weeks after tracking showed distributor was delivered. Customer contacted us in week +5 and said he wanted to return the distributor because he couldn't get it put back together. We advised customer we cannot accept a return of a part that has been disassembled or altered. Customer changed story, said distributor arrived in pieces."
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There was no response from OCPNW to the negative review. Maybe others on here have had a better experience.
I would point out there is no "maybe" about it. You asked what distributor to get. You got a solid, consistent answer. You decided to ignore it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The Autoline distributor is not great either.
You were, like, kinda sorta told this is how it would be.
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I was able to pull and bend the pick up back from the reluctor
So you didn't buy the good distributor because although everyone here who knows what they're talking about said go get it, some rando said mean things about it on the internet. You bought the bad distributor instead, and now you're talking about having to bend parts, and…I'm sorry, I must have taken my eye off the ball; what point are you making?
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it is not square with the reluctor. The top is maybe .005" and the bottom is more than .020" away. I don't know if this matters
Yeah. It matters.
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My concern is that if they can't get something as seemingly simple as this right what else is not right.
That is a very astute observation. You were told this is how it would be.
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I'm trying to decide if I should send this one back
Yes.
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for another one
No.
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for a refund
Yes.
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and take my chances with OCPNW
Oh, for crumb's sake…srsly? Yeah, dare to live on the edge; take a walk on the wild side. :lol:
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Advise appreciated
Are you sure? I'm not; seems to me you've already had (and ignored) good, consistent advice on here.

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:50 pm 
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Location: Near Harrisburg PA
Car Model: 1982 D150 /6 AT, PS, MB Regular Cab
You feel better now SSD?
I could respond to most of what you said but I don't have the time or inclination.

I will likely call OCPNW and see what their time frame is for shipping a distributor.

The Autoline part seemed like a good alternative according to the advice of another member on this site so I tried it.

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:06 pm 
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The one I received from OCPNW was definitely NOS. It was “new”, it’s was “old”, it was in “stock”. It required stripping to remove the old lube, it was very stiff to rotate in its out of the box state. It also came with a cap and rotor unlike the pic on eBay. That being said it was an easy job since I had to recurve it to suit my needs anyways and it’s provided trouble free service. They were fine to deal with. I think any NOS part should be thoroughly inspected prior to use considering the time they have been sitting. If they are out of stock there seems to be other suppliers listing them, I have no knowledge of their service or reputations however.


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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:43 pm 
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You feel better now SSD?
I didn't feel badly in the first place. But thanks for asking, though! :D

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 2:37 pm 
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Location: Belleville, WI
Car Model: 1984 Ram D150
Finally got around to HEI installation today. Been running short trips with the lean burn wiring shoved up into the corner of the engine compartment. It's gone now.
NOS vacuum advance distributor / new cap / rotor.
Swapped distributor hold down brackets slick as you please.
New GM bracket / coil / module as per suggestions here.
Fresh connectors and grounds.
Reused the flat profile o-ring from the old distributor.
Harness is clean and lean, now.
Reused plugs and plug wires for now.
Everything is ready to fire up, but too hot in the garage right now.
Have to highlight the timing marks and balancer mark for use with my new timing light.
Also waiting to get my neighbor over as a second set of eyes to look things over and set timing.
Looking for ~ 8* btdc for starters.
Very excited to turn the key!

1984 Dodge D150 Royal - 2WD - 4 speed standard transmission

Can I attach pictures from my smart phone here?
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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:03 am 
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Location: Runge, TX
Car Model: 1974 W100; 72 Dart
Nobody asked me, but I purchased this distributor:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.ph ... 59&jsn=436

It is a new unit, has a metal gear, and runs real good so far. I have it installed at 10* BTDC initial for a grand total of 30* total mechanical.

I am going to make a trip to the JY to pick up a super six distributor to go through and use for my next slant. For now, the 170 in the 64 Valiant will have to make do with the one linked above.

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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:43 pm 
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Make sure to get the super six distributor and recondition it as back up...

WPS are chinese distributors so you may want to carry a spare if the pickup tanks unexpectedly...

FYI.


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 Post subject: Re: Distributor Dilema
PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:57 pm 
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Location: Runge, TX
Car Model: 1974 W100; 72 Dart
Yeah,I realize WPS is chinesium. I am carrying a points distributor and everything is easily reversed to points. That and the original mechanical voltage regulator are in my trunk. The coil and the original wiring on still on the engine...just in case.

I would probably do that anyway. I have ALWAYS gotten home with points, can't say that about modules/pick ups.

As an aside, is there a GOOD pick up coil produced any more?

sb


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