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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:44 am 
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There's another option out there for a roller chain that shouldn't have the same fit challenges as the Rollmaster & JP ones. Elgin makes "Premium" components that can be combined to assemble a complete set.

Here are the Elgin parts you'll need...
  • S-338 Cam sprocket
    S-339 Crank sprocket
    TC-168 Roller chain

These may be the same components for Cloyes roller chain... not sure.

I can't vouch for the set yet, but mine is due tomorrow. I'll be installing this on my long-rod rebuild and will comment back here once the car's on the road this spring. Just wanted to share...

I'd love to hear from anyone who installed this set!

[UPDATE 02/09/2021]
The link to purchase the 3-Piece Elgin Roller Timing Set is >>HERE<<

No coupons, promo codes, limited offers, or group purchase - just click & buy just click & buy (shipping is free). This is a real-deal bolt-on-and-go kit with zero installation hassles like some other roller kits.

Props to Paul @ Liberty Engine Parts for making it work through their vendor Monster Engine Parts!

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:15 am 
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Elgin Industries is a privately held US company located in Elgin IL. They are one of the part manufacturers that I worked with back in my employment days. A good company with solid systems. They manufacture valve train components: push rods, lifters, rocker arms for the OE automotive and HD truck market. They also have an extensive aftermarket parts catalogue. I believe most of the aftermarket part production is outsourced, but I also believe they are the kind of a company that would keep good tabs on outside suppliers.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:43 am 
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There's another option out there for a roller chain that shouldn't have the same fit challenges as the Rollmaster & JP ones. Elgin makes "Premium" components that can be combined to assemble a complete set.

Here are the Elgin parts you'll need...
  • S-338 Cam sprocket
    S-339 Crank sprocket
    TC-168 Roller chain

These may be the same components for Cloyes roller chain... not sure.

I can't vouch for the set yet, but mine is due tomorrow. I'll be installing this on my long-rod rebuild and will comment back here once the car's on the road this spring. Just wanted to share...

I'd love to hear from anyone who installed this set!
Sounds Good. Where would one go to buy those part #'s?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:47 am 
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Greg - I got mine at Liberty Engine Parts, but I would think most parts stores could order these.

John - that's awesome to hear! I was looking for a US or NA manufactured part - glad to hear your assessment of them. Means a lot coming from you. Thank you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:01 am 
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This looks great. Thanks a bunch for sharing.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:07 pm 
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here is a link to their part catalogue

https://www.elginind.com/prostock-catalog/

They do that 'Black Ice' cryogenic treatment on site at the plant in Elgin.

The Elgin Engineering Mgr is a real motor head. He drives and drag races a nearly stock and absolutely pristine '68 Pontiac GTO.
The reception room at the plant has a vintage cut away small block Chevy on display.
The company had a race car sponsored and entered in the Indy 500 from the 30's to the late 50's.

https://www.facebook.com/ElginIndustrie ... 09/?type=3

In fact, Elgin Industries sponsored a road race through the rural streets around Elgin.
from the early days of the motor industry up to the '30s
http://www.kalracing.com/autoracing/Elg ... istory.htm

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:20 am 
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Looks like you cannot buy from liberty parts unless you have an account are a business or reseller / rebuilder?


I cannot access much there, but there is a warehouse location near me in Pittsburgh.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:51 am 
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Can't get them through rockauto, summit, or jegs, either. Probably need to go into a parts store and convince the counter jockey to special order them in.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:31 am 
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Greg & Reed - let me see if I can work something out - I'll post back soon... Trying to get a POC at Liberty or a direct vendor for you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:41 am 
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I contacted Elgin and they confirmed that they are a manufacturer and do not sell retail.
Elgin gave the names and phone numbers of two of the distributors that they supply to.

Liberty 855-621-4242
EPW 800-588-9608

since Csheehy was already contacting Liberty I contacted EPW.

EPW does sell retail either through the phone number listed or through their web site.
The EPW retail web site is http://www.PBM-Erson.com

The components for the timing set, S-338, S-339, TC-168 show out of stock on the web site, per the EPW
person I spoke with on the phone the individual parts can be special ordered separately or but he said it is cheaper to
just by the three parts as a set, he said they have 6 of the complete timing sets in stock.
The part number for the slant six timing set is T3022 it is listed as being $27.79

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:52 am 
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Thanks Dadtruck! I ordered one. FYI- shipping was pricey- $25 for nothing but the timing set. Not large, not heavy, but it is getting hard to find slant performance parts. We'll see how it looks when it arrives.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:03 pm 
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http://www.pbm-erson.com/Catalog/PBM/Ti ... T/PBMT3022

What is pictured here just seems to be an oe replacement.

Does not look like a a double roller chain to me.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:35 pm 
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The part number for the slant six timing set is T3022 it is listed as being $27.79
I doubt that is the double roller set. Probably just the stock "silent" set, at that price

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:41 pm 
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Charlie, you are correct. The PN that John had shared was indeed for the service replacement part, not the roller (I paid $116 for my set, shipping included). I'm still working on getting a contact for purchasing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:40 pm 
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Well, if I can't cancel my order, I will let you know what shows up. Something tells me (mostly what others have posted) that it will be a stock set. Oh, well. I don't have any new slant timing sets currently.


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