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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 5:55 pm 
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Looks like the body is longer but a bet the socket-to-face is the same.
Ding! The effective/practical length is the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 6:18 pm 
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67 Magnum, I will send you a PM
It went 12.8's in my 70 Challenger.
Seems that if that car was a real T/A and with the 340 6 Bbl It was worse with the 440 :D :D
- Maybe faster at the dragstrip, however.

I would prefer that machine outfitted with all the factory T/A Goodies.

Nice stuff you had there back then!

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:42 am 
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Oh, it was a real TA.
I bought it with a blown up 383, the 340 had been traded for the BB and then it all went south.
I ran the 440 for a few years, built a 340 for it and sold it for a down payment on my first house.

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:20 am 
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It is very unlikely that the stock 340-6 would run much better than 14.0 back in the day in an E-body. Probably mid/high 14s. Totally different time of tires, tuning, transmissions... Even when I was in high school (late 80s), a 12.8 sreetable car was really fast. There was a guy with a 451 stroker in a 71 Charger with a little N2O too who was basicaly the guy to beat in Madison (metro population 300,000) and he was in the very low 12s. Only thing possibly faster than that around was a Challenger like Robs with a built 340 and he was maybe in the high 11s. I had a ride in that once. There was talk of a 455 Olds (NA) that ran high 11s that an "older" guy (around 30) had, but I never saw it run. All my friends with fast cars bragged their cars could run 12s or 11s, but if anyone actually went to a dragstrip they ran mid 13s to low 14s every time. Certainly people had faster cars, but none were street driven. If Stan had drag timeslips with a warmed up 440 in a streetable E-body from the 70s or 80s, then he was doing something... Another fun thought is that if took my fastest 3 Slant 6 cars back to 1989, I could have beat most of the big block cars in town.

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:09 am 
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I don't know about that. Back in the mid to late '70's, I bought a 68 Dart GTS 383 4speed car out of a junk yard, on a Friday. Over the weekend we installed a set of lifters, and pushrods, water pump plugs, points, cap and rotor. We actually installed the valve train parts in the tech lane at the track (Island Dragway) on Sunday. Thru the mufflers, on G60-14 tires and a sloppy Inland shifter. I got a best of 13.6 at 102mph. Couldn't even launch the car as it would either light the tires, or chatter the clutch (if trying to slip it). Estimate easily in the 12's with a good clutch, good shifter, and better tires.
PS: Talk about being stupid, I sold that car for what I had in it 2weeks later. I only paid $150 for the car itself, and the body only needed a left rear quarter.

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:25 am 
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All my friends with fast cars bragged their cars could run 12s or 11s, but if anyone actually went to a dragstrip they ran mid 13s to low 14s every time.
That seems to be about what I remember too. I heard lots of " Oh that thing runs in the 12's" but they never went to the track. One guy with a 65 Mustang built to the hilt, knew he was deep into the 12's. Then he went to the dragstrip and he didn't even make it into the 13's! HE never wanted to go to the track after that! I think the main thing back then was not many tires had any traction.

A friend had a legit 66 Chevelle street car back then, and when I saw him run 12.90's in street trim I was totally impressed. His car was a 327. Now I have gone 12.70's with a Slant 6. Kind of fun! :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
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Nice.
House payments are important.

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 Post subject: Re: Lifters
PostPosted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:05 pm 
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In the early 80s I had a 340 4 speed Swinger that ran 13:80s on the track. I waxed a few 12 and 11 second cars on the street.

My red car on the hose would have been a rocketship back then. :mrgreen:

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