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 Post subject: My 64 Valiant more door
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:13 am 
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Just got this car on 8-1-2024 This will be my build thread. Had it transported from NY to Florida.
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This 1964 Valiant V200 sedan has been stored for 10 years. Too much travel and work has gotten in the way and it's become very difficult for me to finish it.

Located in Queens, NYC.

This car was purchased new in San Diego, CA by my great grandfather. Originally white, 225 slant and 904 auto. No other options. My grandmother inherited it when he died and painted it red in the 1970s. In 2005 it became mine, and I drove it in Southern California as my daily driver (this was my fourth early A body) with some minor updates until the motor wore out. At that time (2014) I pulled it down to a bare shell and had it stripped to bare metal, some minor welding done (right floorboard, some trunk spots and cowl) and repainted with Glasurit single stage paint in an orange-red shade very close to the original. The top is white.

At the same time I rebuilt the motor with all the goodies, reinstalled it and got the car running but not finished before I had to put it in storage and moved across the country for work. It's been in basically that state ever since. Right now it needs the interior finished, and it needs an intake system, plumbing, lights and wiring, etc. It drove to where it is but I removed the webers that I could never get running. I've been collecting the parts for an EFI conversion and they can go with them for the right price. There are $15k worth of parts here. Detailed specs below.

Engine/Trans:
Ported 1968 head (drool tube)
Oversized valves
verified 10:1 compression
Custom cam grind from Delta (specs included)
Roller timing chain
new rockers, lightweight pushrods
offy valve cover
Forged pistons/rods (balanced - .040 over)
10/10 forged crank
Clifford headers
blueprinted stock oil pump
oil baffle
Crank trigger wheel (36-1)
Gill welding EFI intake (for the right price) with OEM 440cc Bosch injectors, harness, mustang 5.0 TB, all sensors and COP ignition coils (Porsche). Includes Speeduino ECU. The harness is set up for 3 channel semi-sequential.
Delco alternator brackets/alternator
Aluminum radiator
904 cable shift auto, rebuilt years back with V8 clutches. Stock pot joint driveshaft.
2.5" exhaust mild steel.

Chassis:
Borgeson Saginaw Steering box and Saginaw pump
Stock steering shaft with bearing at the bottom and needle u-joint
1.0 torsion bars
large front sway bar
Edelbrock shocks
11.75 front discs, aluminum master. Prop valve.
(stock 7.25 rear)
14" steelies with ancient tires

Interior
Older red cloth bench seats. Newer carpet kit. Rough door panels. Needs assembly or re-done. Headliner, dash cover in a box.
New rear package tray, kick panels, etc.
3-point seat belt mounting
Nardi wood steering wheel, otherwise stock.

Body
Fresh paint (10 years ago!) 2-tone with white top. Dirty from storage. Tiny bit of welding in trunk and passenger floor. Has been in storage since body work. All lights are in the trunk. Reassembled with stainless bolts, new door handles, new hinges, new window seals, new door seals, door window whiskers, etc. etc. All rubber is new from front to rear. Fender liners were powder coated black, along with all brackets. Bumpers are straight-ish but could use a rechrome. Includes all emblems.

Original California black plates, original California registration. Has never been registered outside of the state (or by anyone other than my family). Original owners manual, piles of receipts, most stock parts, and boxes of extras.

This car just needs someone with more time and enthusiasm than I have at the moment to finish the interior, plumb the fuel system and install the lights plus all the little things that take forever. Pictures are from when it was first painted. I can get more pics but it's in storage and not easy to access.

Would love $5k plus the EFI parts that I just spent $1000 on. Could really use my storage back and want to see this back on the road.

Robert cut me a "super" deal on this car.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:23 am 
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Pictures of the car. Some are old, some are as it was when shipped. https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B11JEsNWnGdnfLP

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:09 am 
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Man, that is a sweet lookin car! Glad I did not look at the pics because I might have ended up with it... Happy building, Charlie!!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:39 pm 
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Going to be a race car or a driver?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:04 pm 
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Drive it to the track and race it! :D :D

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:26 am 
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Going to be a race car or a driver?
Going to be a "cruiser". I hope to get it running with a 4 bbl by the fall. It will have to sit for a month or two while I finish some other projects and make a couple of slant races. Then finish the interior, and the outside trim. The last thing will be the EFI. I am pretty good with electrical, but need to study up on aftermarket EFI, and the tuning maps. The carb will let me get a "baseline", so if it doesn't run right with the EFI I won't be chasing my tail.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 7:52 am 
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good plan!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2024 3:42 pm 
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Played around with the car a little, today. It had an aluminum radiator, and electric fan. There were some issues with the fit of the radiator and fan (looks like it might be an older "universal" radiator, before they made radiators for exact fit). When I removed those items I noticed the engine is sitting very low. The pan is only about a piece of paper thickness off the "K" member. Need to see what is going on there. I had a new Champion radiator for a 63-64 slant six "A" body in stock, and it fits much better, so I think that's the way I will go. It should also give me the room I need for an AC condenser.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 12:46 pm 
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Put the car into hibernation for the summer. I rented a storage unit, so I can keep it out of the weather, until the fall. I will have more time to work on it at that time. I can still go there and do some minor things, when I have a little time, and the weather is not condusive to working outside. Right now I need to concentrate on making the races at Clay city and Knoxville.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:27 pm 
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Great idea!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:20 pm 
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Does Robert still have the Webers?
I am PM him but no response.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:43 pm 
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I think he already sold them.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
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64 Valiant Signet
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:32 pm 
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My luck
I need an intake.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:36 am 
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I talked to Robert about the engine, and got some details and a spread sheet with specs. The engine has the 3.44 Weisco pistons and the K-1 rods. Valves are 1.7 and 1.44 with hardened exhaust seats. Static CR is 10.5-1.
Cam specs. Intake lift .468, exh .442, dur @.050 I=236*, E=230*, LSA=106*, Installed at 100*. Dynamic CR= 8.02, JP/Rollmaster timing set.

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65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:47 am 
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That’s one heckuva deal you got, Charlie!

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