Hi, I'm kinda new to these engine so I have a few questions.

First, in another post someone told me that there was probably difference between my starter & distributor and the American one. What would be that difference?

2nd, on the air filter housing there is a sticker that say "SUPER 225", does that mean something and can a new sticker be found somewhere, that one doesn't look to good!

3rd, in the pics below, does everything look stock? If not, what is missing or have been changed? I'd like to put it back as stock as possible.

http://public.fotki.com/blackZ34/blackz34/100_0995.html
http://public.fotki.com/blackZ34/blackz34/100_0996.html
http://public.fotki.com/blackZ34/blackz34/100_0997.html

Thanks,

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1965 Valiant Custom 200, 2dr hardtop, 225ci
1997 Monte Carlo, 3800 supercharged swap
1995 Lumina, 3.4 DOHC swap

Looks stock to me...
I don´t really know about the starter, as I only use the "new" style ones.

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MJ

Looks bone stock to me, too, (with the exception of the battery).

I'm not an authority on Canadian Mopars, but I don't think your "Super 225" really means anything. That's just a "trade name" that Mopar used.

Not trying to pick your new ride apart, but I'd like to point out a couple things I noticed. In the second pic, (from the right side of the car). I noticed a rust spot in the driver's rear corner of the engine bay. Just above/left of the overflow tank in the pic. I suggest you pull the driver's fender and fix that soon. There's a splash shield back in there that probably has the very top mount "ear" rusted off, and it will only get worse. (My '68 Dart has that problem that will be fixed soon.)

Also, at the connection of the top radiator hose.....the green discoloration. I couldn't tell if it was staining from the coolant, or corrosion on the brass tank. If it's corrosion, get that taken care of, too, or you'll probably develop a leak at the inlet fitting solder joint.

I'd hate to see another nice older car slowly develop into the "beater" catagory.

Roger

Look again at the starter, guys. It's not the American-type gear-reduction starter. It's an Auto-Lite (Prestolite) MDT-6017, direct-drive starter -- made in Sarnia, Ontario, and very similar to (and interchangeable with) the American-built Prestolite MDT-7002 and MDT-7009 starters used on '60-'61 slants. It is also interchangeable with the Chrysler-built solenoid-shift direct-drive starter used on fleet/truck/taxi slant-6s with the 11" clutch and heavy-duty 3-speed manual trans, and with a particular variant of the Bosch gear-reduction starter used in Australia.

It is NOT interchangeable with the American Chrysler gear reduction starter or with the newer "mini" type (Nippondenso) starter.

The distributor used on the Canadian '65 would also be made by Auto-Lite (Prestolite), and is a cast iron unit numbered IBR-4203G rather than the aluminum Chrysler-built distributor on American models. Same cap, different rotor, different points, different vacuum advance. But, since it's fully interchangeable with the American distributor, this may have been changed.

But, this engine isn't all original. Somebody has replaced the exhaust manifold and carburetor with items not originally meant for a 1965, and hasn't done a proper job of it. The valve cover hose connections are wrong. The PCV valve belongs on the rear valve cover chimney, and it needs to be connected to the carburetor. On your car, someone has run a hose from the PCV valve (improperly located up front) to under the car. This will do nothing at all of use. Looks like the rear chimney is connected to the carb, maybe via a PCV valve and maybe not. You need ONE PCV valve, located at the rear of the valve cover. The front valve cover chimney needs to have a vented oil cap on it, such as a Stant SO-61. Fixing this will take care of the goopy buildup that's happening on your valve cover.

When they installed the '70-and-later exhaust manifold and whatever carburetor they used (can't see it under the air cleaner), you lost your carburetor anti-ice system. Make sure the fitting on the base of the air cleaner, on the clean side of the filter, is securely plugged off. Otherwise it's a direct path for dirt to get into the engine.

"Super 225" was what the engine was called. It's not a special version of the 225. Those decals are available new -- as are many other detail/small parts -- from www.garygoers.com . Be patient with him, for he is very busy. Order his catalogue.

Let's see, other stuff I see: Somebody for some reason has installed two fuel filters in your fuel line and sort of made a mess of it. Rework it like this to improve cold and hot starting.

Looks like someone couldn't make the choke work right and installed a manual override, too.

That su***, do you have any pics of what it should look like?
I'll take care of this.
Carburator is a Holley and I found two numbers on it: 0850 and 4352.
Again, do you have pic of this anti-ice system?Is it a collector below the carb with a hose that goes to the air cleaner housing (I have a 1987 Dodge Ram van with a 225 too and it has something like this)
Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at it.
So that thing is another fuel filter (closest to the carb)? So wich one looks like the original?
You have good eyes! It does have a manual choke, I didn't know it wasn't supposed to be there...

Thanks again, I will try to take some other pics without the air cleaner housing and post them here.

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1965 Valiant Custom 200, 2dr hardtop, 225ci
1997 Monte Carlo, 3800 supercharged swap
1995 Lumina, 3.4 DOHC swap

I wouldn't worry much about the exhaust manifold. The only major appearance difference between the '60-'69 and '70-'87 exhaust manifolds is that the later ones have more reinforcing ribs and a round heat riser valve counterweight, while the earlier ones have less ribbing and a rectangular counterweight. Your '65 Canadian model is something of an exception; the #2 runner of the factory exhaust manifold would've been "raised" at the top (sort of like the #5 is for the choke well), with a rigid sleeve a little more than 1/4" diameter passing straight through from top to bottom. Steel lines would've been pushed into this sleeve from top and from bottom. The one from the top would've been insulated with woven silica/asbestos sleeving and would've connected to a threaded fitting on the passenger side of the carb's throttle body. The one from the bottom would've been uninsulated, and connected to a rubber hose which would've connected to a nipple on the underside of the air cleaner baseplate. This system really isn't necessary any more, not with modern gasoline formulations, and serves only to make hot-start problems (boils the carb).
1970 US Federal 225/Automatic. You could do much worse.
There's a diagram in the 1969 FSM but I haven't got it. Wait, maybe that's wrong. I might have that diagram in another book, but all my books are at the office. Give me a couple days.
No, that's the thermostatic air cleaner preheater hose. The TAC replaced the anti-ice system for the 1970 model year, and is a MUCH better solution to the problem of keeping the carb's intake air at a relatively constant temperature and preventing ice-up.

You seems to know these engine very well! You're a great help , thanks!

I found a 1965 Fury II with a 225 for sale nearby (says original on the for sale sign). I'll try to take a hold of the owner to see if I can get a couple of pics of his underhood...

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1965 Valiant Custom 200, 2dr hardtop, 225ci
1997 Monte Carlo, 3800 supercharged swap
1995 Lumina, 3.4 DOHC swap

Yeah, I know there is a couple of rust spots, hopefully I will repaint the car/engine bay so that should be taken care of.

And the green discoloration just seem to be corrosion on the tank so I'll clean that too!

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1965 Valiant Custom 200, 2dr hardtop, 225ci
1997 Monte Carlo, 3800 supercharged swap
1995 Lumina, 3.4 DOHC swap

Found it!