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 Post subject: Lowering 64 Dart
PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:21 pm 
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Im a newb so Im sure that there are some threads on doing a front drop on a convertible Dart gt but I couldnt find them. If not how do I go about doing so(lowering it)? Im not used to not having some spring to cut...

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:57 pm 
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You have a torsion bar front suspension, so ride height changes can be made by adjusting the preload of the torsion bar..............

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 7:05 pm 
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But you can't go to low before you start to have some serious handling problems.

Hmmm, a topless slant, nice headlights :wink: .

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 9:13 pm 
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how much could I drop it? I mean my mom has a 63 convertible valiant and shes dropped it and it makes mine look like a 4x4 when sitting next to it. I want to be able to drive it so I kinda need the steering to work well too..

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You can easily drop the front of the car by 2 to 3" with adjustment of the T-bars. This should not effect the handling at all.


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 Post subject: dropping an "A"
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 10:41 am 
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Tire size will factor in to this also, check your mom's ride out & compare, I know my 205/70/14 on my 62 made it look huge next to some 175/70/13's on a 65. Just food for thought!!!!!! V


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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:37 am 
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How exactly do I adjust the t-bars? I know its as simple as a nut but I dont know what nut... Im completely new to this type of suspensioon but I thank you for you help!

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:02 am 
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Can anyone help me out?

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:30 am 
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The adjuster bolt is in the lower control arm, at the torsion bar end. The head is visible from underneath. Take the weight off the torsion bar before trying to adjust.
Please be careful, and understand what you're doing. Suspensions are very sophisticated, and small changes can have serious impact. You'll need to carefully measure ride height before and after. It can be tough to keep the ride height and preload correct, and both change the way the car handles. Don't go nuts with the changes, and have it aligned afterwards.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 6:31 am 
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The factory service manual will have thorough instructions on how to do this.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:13 am 
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unfortunaly I dont have the service manual, but Im going to see if a freind of mine whose done it before can help me out... I dont plan on going crazy with it though, just an inch or so.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:37 pm 
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Im sorry to bring this old thread back to life but today I tried everything I could to get this car to sit lower and my dad and I could not figure out for the life of us what nut we're supposed to turn... again Im a newb so without laughing too hard could someone explain in detail how to do this... :cry:

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Assuming it's similar to my '72 Swinger, there should be a bolt head pointed straight down at the ground in the middle of each lower control arm. You may not be able to see it, depending on how far it's turned (it will rise higher into the control arm the more it's turned). Depending on when it was last adjusted, you may need a a breaker bar to turn it, and a (short) extension to reach it. Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:37 pm 
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it does.. I was going to turn on that one because I thought it was the right one but I didnt want to turn on the wrong one so I asked just to verify... thanks for your help

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:41 am 
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It's one of those things that, if you ever take your front suspension completely apart and see how the adjuster/torsion bar work together, it makes perfect sense. Until then, it'll just be "magic". :)

In the meantime, just be glad Ma' Mopar baked ride-height adjustability in, unlike GMs and Fords...

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