Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:02 am

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1 2 Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:20 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:22 am
Posts: 491
Location: Missouri City, Texas (Houston Area)
Car Model:
My mechanic says my new Holley 390 won't balance, the driver side of the idle circuit is dead and incapable of being balanced. Does anyone have experience with getting these things to work? I can't afford to be buying new carburetors everytime I turn around. What is the exchange possibilites with Summit Racing?

Help!!!!!!!!!

bwhitejr

_________________
'72 Duster (Performance 360)
'83 Ramcharger (Performance 318)
'80 TrailDuster (360)
'80 D-150 Truck (See Below)
CompCams 252S, Holley 390cfm, Offy manifold
Ported, Polished and Gasket Matched
P4286813 Springs,0.040 Overbore,
0.090 Shaved Head


Top
   
 Post subject: Handshake deal...
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:30 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:27 pm
Posts: 9714
Location: Salem, OR
Car Model:
as long as your mechanic hasn't done anything to change the configuration of the holley (pulled it apart), and you bought the Holley from them less than 90 days ago, they'll refund the money...there are also manufacturers warranties in place...

Exactly what was the reason it was "dead"...no fuel? idle well not drilled correctly? is it the fuel wells in the fuel block? He just wants you to return it and try an Edelbrock (insert Dennis comment here :wink: )? Gasket blocking the pertinent feed holes in the throttle body?

just curious,

-D.Idiot


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:32 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:27 pm
Posts: 14588
Location: Park Forest, Illinoisy
Car Model: 68 Valiant
Check to make sure there is not dirt in the air bleeds.

_________________
Official Cookie and Mater Tormentor.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:34 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:33 am
Posts: 2378
Location: Central GA
Car Model: Many & varied, including stock & hopped up /6's
I'd say throw it away, just because it's a piece of crap holley, but why does your mechanic need to "balance" anything? Unless you're running some kind of experimental dual plane slant six intake, it's sitting over an open plenum... what's to balance? I can see a dead idle circuit causing problems, but the "balance" part is bullshit.

D/W

_________________
Image
If it ain't broke, fix it!


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:21 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:22 am
Posts: 491
Location: Missouri City, Texas (Houston Area)
Car Model:
I may have misinterpreted what he said. But I believe he couldn't set the idle mixture on the driver side. It is only running (idling) on the passenger side barrel. I tried to set the idle mixture according to the instructions using a vacuum gauge looking for the highest possible vacuum reading. Boy... it made no difference which way you turned the mixture screw as far as vacuum went. It did tend to make it die if you went to far one direction. And that was on the passenger side barrel. I will have to buy a new Edelbrock (500 cfm?) if I can't get him looking in the right direction. This mechanic has 35 years experience and KNOWS what he is talking about. Any misinformation is coming from me. :roll:
I need something to tell him tomorrow, or the carburetor is off the vehicle and I am buying an Edelbrock and selling a very slightly used Holley 0-8007 390cfm.

bwhitejr

_________________
'72 Duster (Performance 360)
'83 Ramcharger (Performance 318)
'80 TrailDuster (360)
'80 D-150 Truck (See Below)
CompCams 252S, Holley 390cfm, Offy manifold
Ported, Polished and Gasket Matched
P4286813 Springs,0.040 Overbore,
0.090 Shaved Head


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:37 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:33 am
Posts: 2378
Location: Central GA
Car Model: Many & varied, including stock & hopped up /6's
Quote:
...selling a very slightly used Holley 0-8007 390cfm.

bwhitejr
See CharlieS, I sell him all my rejected holley 390 junk! ;) :lol:

D/W

_________________
Image
If it ain't broke, fix it!


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:40 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:22 am
Posts: 491
Location: Missouri City, Texas (Houston Area)
Car Model:
I think what he means by balance (assuming it works this way) is, since you have idle mixture adjustments on both primaries, shouldn't they both be working in the idle circuit? I think he is saying that only one works, the other doesn't. How that is arrived at is beyond me......that is why it is at the mechanics shop. :)

This a brand new , fresh-out-of-box carburetor. I don't anticipate any crap in the air bleeds or should I?

Are both idle mixture circuits supposed to be on while idling? Maybe that is a bad assumption.

bwhitejr

_________________
'72 Duster (Performance 360)
'83 Ramcharger (Performance 318)
'80 TrailDuster (360)
'80 D-150 Truck (See Below)
CompCams 252S, Holley 390cfm, Offy manifold
Ported, Polished and Gasket Matched
P4286813 Springs,0.040 Overbore,
0.090 Shaved Head


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:58 pm 
Offline
SSRN National Champion
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 3:56 pm
Posts: 1967
Location: Dalton, GA
Car Model:
Hey Dennis I need that Holly junk to . If you are the Carb man then let the junk go to brother racers. If you doint understand Holly Carbs then you never will. Ask the racers which carbs they use on there race cars and why. :D :D All we are asking is give Hollys a chance Thanks Ron Parker :D :D








Hey Has That Thing Got A Bagel Bamboozler In It


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:20 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:33 am
Posts: 2378
Location: Central GA
Car Model: Many & varied, including stock & hopped up /6's
Quote:
Hey Dennis I need that Holly junk to . If you are the Carb man then let the junk go to brother racers. If you doint understand Holly Carbs then you never will. Ask the racers which carbs they use on there race cars and why. :D :D All we are asking is give Hollys a chance Thanks Ron Parker :D :D

Oh, I understand. I understand they are junk! Racers do fine with the because all they are concerned with is Wide Open Throttle performance. They dont care if they are driveability nightmares that foul plugs and are prone to leak! :shock: :twisted:

As I said, racer Charlie has my last cast off mistake!

D/W

_________________
Image
If it ain't broke, fix it!


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:59 pm 
Offline
3 Deuce Weber

Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:26 am
Posts: 59
Location: Flushing, NY (NYC)
Car Model:
One time I had big stumbling problems and idling problems on my stock 1920. I later learned that when the block had been bored out at the machinists shop they only screwed the studs in lightly. I found one of the intake studs for the carburetor hold-down nuts was only lightly screwed in, probably causing a vacuum leak. I never found out for certain because in trying to tighten down the nut on this loosened stud I cracked the carb body. Then I switched to a Weber and had to replace the studs with bolts, when I found the problem.

_________________
'73 Dodge Dart Swinger 225 904


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:03 am 
Offline
SL6 Racer & Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:06 pm
Posts: 8800
Location: Silver Springs, Fl.
Car Model:
If this is a brand new carb, I would send it back under warrentee. If You want to sell it cheap, let me know. DW has been falling behind in his used Holley supply. :P

_________________
Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:23 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6

Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:47 am
Posts: 534
Location: Illinois
Car Model:
Does carter make an AFB small enough for a slant.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:48 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 08, 2003 11:33 am
Posts: 2378
Location: Central GA
Car Model: Many & varied, including stock & hopped up /6's
Quote:
Does carter make an AFB small enough for a slant.
500 cfm aftermarket readily available (Edelbrock), 400 cfm aftermarket and OEM (for 273 application) available if you look hard.

D/W

_________________
Image
If it ain't broke, fix it!


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:24 pm 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:00 pm
Posts: 2928
Location: kankakee IL
Car Model: 80 volare, 78 fury 2 dr, 85 D150
I tend to agree... scrap the Holley... if it wasn't giving you fits now, don't worry, it will be shortly. Go with the Carter!


Top
   
PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 4:05 am 
Offline
EFI Slant 6
User avatar

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:22 am
Posts: 491
Location: Missouri City, Texas (Houston Area)
Car Model:
Bad news! I was collecting parts all Summer and I looked at the Sales receipt. It was dated July 26, 2005. So, my 90 days was up October 26, 2005. So, now I am stuck making the Holley work. Any suggestions? Other than throwing it away anyway :wink: . Or saving up for a Edelbrock. I looked but didn't see a 400cfm Edelbrock, just a 500.

Will my gas mileage improve? The motor has 100 miles on it, will it get better mileage later. It appears to suck gas now. But it could be the driver of a new engine with lots more power :twisted: .

bwhitejr

_________________
'72 Duster (Performance 360)
'83 Ramcharger (Performance 318)
'80 TrailDuster (360)
'80 D-150 Truck (See Below)
CompCams 252S, Holley 390cfm, Offy manifold
Ported, Polished and Gasket Matched
P4286813 Springs,0.040 Overbore,
0.090 Shaved Head


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1 2 Next

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Semrush [Bot] and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited