Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:47 am

All times are UTC-07:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page Previous 1 2
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:45 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:45 pm
Posts: 446
Car Model:
So letting the master cylinder level go too low while bleeding one of the wheels means you have to bench-bleed it?


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 6:53 pm 
Offline
Supercharged

Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 11:50 pm
Posts: 6291
Location: So California
Car Model: 64 Plymouth Valiant
Quote:
So letting the master cylinder level go too low while bleeding one of the wheels means you have to bench-bleed it?

No, you just need to top off the master and start all over............

_________________
Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

8)


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:02 pm 
Offline
Turbo EFI
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:09 am
Posts: 1167
Location: Troy, Texas
Car Model:
Once you let a reservoir run low enough, it will suck air and introduce it back into your brake lines. The whole idea behind bleeding the lines is to get the air out. With air in the lines, your brakes feel spongy because you are hydraulically compressing the pockets of air. Fluids are virtually incompressible, so, no air... no compressing, and your foot on the pedal meets with a more solid resistance.

One of these days, I plan to install some of those speed bleed screws to make the bleeding process easier.

Jerry

_________________
There's a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing any better.
Stupidity is knowing, yet doing it anyway.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 10:13 pm 
Offline
Supercharged

Joined: Thu May 12, 2005 11:50 pm
Posts: 6291
Location: So California
Car Model: 64 Plymouth Valiant
Quote:
One of these days, I plan to install some of those speed bleed screws to make the bleeding process easier.

Jerry

Well I'm cheap, and used an aquarium airline rubber flap check valve to replace/flush the brakes on my parents car today. Attach to nipple with airline tubing, crack nipple open, start pumping (and make sure you keep the reservoir full).... (and remove all the old fluid from reservoir and fill with new before starting)

Only took me 30 minutes.

_________________
Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

8)


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:32 am 
Offline
Turbo EFI
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2003 5:09 am
Posts: 1167
Location: Troy, Texas
Car Model:
Quote:
Well I'm cheap...
Not so, just resourceful. :wink:
I'll have to check it out.

Jerry

_________________
There's a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Ignorance is not knowing any better.
Stupidity is knowing, yet doing it anyway.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 6:35 am 
Offline
EFI Slant 6

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:45 pm
Posts: 446
Car Model:
Quote:
Once you let a reservoir run low enough, it will suck air and introduce it back into your brake lines. The whole idea behind bleeding the lines is to get the air out. With air in the lines, your brakes feel spongy because you are hydraulically compressing the pockets of air.
Why doesn't it also introduce air into the master cylinder?


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:36 am 
Offline
Turbo EFI
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:01 pm
Posts: 1937
Location: Rhine, GA
Car Model:
It does introduce air into the master cylinder. It has to go throught the MC to get to the brake lines. That is why you have to re-bleed the MC plus the brakelines if that happens.

This is all based on personal experience. I found out the hard way. :roll:

_________________
82 D150-225/727
02 Dakota-3.9/5 speed
87 GMC C7000-8.2 Detroit Diesel/5+2


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:46 am 
Offline
EFI Slant 6

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:45 pm
Posts: 446
Car Model:
Thanks.

I was under the impression there were internal nooks and crannies that get bled while bench-bleeding, and then an external circuit directly from the reservoir to the wheel cylinder that gets bled in routine brake bleeding.

Because there is a separate procedure to bleed air from the master cylinder, I figured there must be a somewhat isolated circuit that gets bench-bled.

Probably wishful thinking, since I am concerned about the wear and tear on the new brake lines I made and the probability I will have to get a new rod bushing for the re-installation.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:59 pm 
Offline
EFI Slant 6

Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2003 9:45 pm
Posts: 446
Car Model:
Dude. I suck at brakes.


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ]  Go to page Previous 1 2

All times are UTC-07:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited