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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:35 am 
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Supercharged
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How old is your battery?
What is the voltage during cranking?
Are you loosing a cell? or all the plates shorting out do to the mud in the bottom of the battery?

Sounds like once the alternator kicks in you have enough voltage. Do a battery test at one of the local shops and see how it performs.

I have a volt meter on my system to monitor status.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:38 am 
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I want to thank everyone for their helpful tips. Special thanks to Ted for his advice.

I never did figure out exactly which wire was the issue, but I started with a new pigtail for the ECU, and when I starting in there wiring it up, I found so many bad wiring jobs from past owners, poor connections, mismatched wire gauges, no fusible link on the heavy circuits, wires going to nowhere from nowhere, etc., I rewired the whole engine harness. After that, she fires up every time. I had a small trash bag full of old wires before I was through, but now I'm sure its wired correctly, and as you'd imagine I've become much more comfortable with wiring issues.

Now I just have to wire the horn (that was missing when I bought the Dart), an electric washer bottle (it had the old floor pump, but that was missing as well) and I bought some Sebring convertible seats that I want to wire up (also have to fabricate the seat mounts).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:02 pm 
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You may have checked this, but remember that usually during cranking the power arrives at the ECU and to the coil + via a different route than in run. It could be that there's a bad connection there so you have trouble only in START and a good connection in RUN.

You could test that by putting the ignition in RUN and use a jumper wire to turn on the starter relay (a test light ought to show power at one of the small connections at the starter relay that goes to the + coil, the other ought to energize the relay).

Alternatively, disconnect the starter relay to starter cable (just for safety), then measure the voltage at the (+) coil and at the ECU in in RUN and START. For a factory setup, the + coil ought to be 6-8V in RUN and about 12V in START (for a stronger spark). The ECU ought to get about 12V for both RUN and START.

If you don't get 12V in START, the starter relay or its connections are suspect.


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