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Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:17 am ]
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Greg:

I've spent ALL DAY looking at this thread and absorbing as much of it as possible... not sure if I want to get as many holes as you have with Ruster, but you've given me the inspiration to really take a second look at how I've got my Dart setup...

She's a pig, albeit a very light pig (even from the factory) but now Im seeing TONS of stuff and thinking... "Why do I need that?"

Uh oh... you are starting to get me roped in now... :shock:

Excellent job on Ruster! Just curious, how many cans of black paint have you gone through? LOL :twisted:

~THOR~

Thanks Thor,

This thread will always be here for your reference..


There are still a lot of things to be lightened..

Some of them cost alot of $ so They will wait a bit.

I estimate about ~15 cans of Black so far..


Greg
Author:  Rick Covalt [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:13 am ]
Post subject:  Paint
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15 cans of Black so far..
Greg, 15 cans at 1 pound each is 15 pounds! What are you thinkin man!! Rust is lighter than paint!!! :lol: :lol:
Author:  Shaker223 [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paint
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15 cans of Black so far..
Greg, 15 cans at 1 pound each is 15 pounds! What are you thinkin man!! Rust is lighter than paint!!! :lol: :lol:
That's before the solvents flash off.
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:38 am ]
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Yeah, I thought about that too.I sprayed the underside and running gear of my 64 and looks like most of it was on the shop floor.
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Update 4-7-12
I am waitning on a Few parts from A&A to Finish my transmission Swap / Refresh.

While I was Disassembling the front pump to replace the Converter bushing I found that the engine running the pump gear with no belhousing to support it wiped the Gear and Back Half of the Pump section too.. So I cleaned up a donor gear and rear half of a pump section.

The Final weigh In of all the New Yokes and drive shafts are complete:
Even though I am upgrading the Strength and durability of these parts I am not Happy that the 1350 u joints and yokes and AL drive shaft ADD 1.44# to the Driveline :-(

Hopefully I can offset this travesty by Eliminating the Governor and Swapping to a Billet Aluminum Park Gear.. We shall see.

While I am waiting on trans Parts I put a flywheel and starter on the engine - I fired it up just to be sure that I didnt break any thing there.. I would hate to assemble the trans and everything into the car to find an engine problem...

It was all in good shape - YAY.

Pics:

New Driveshaft:
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It weighs 10.93# Almost 1.5# More than the broken steel one.
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Old Steel / Stock Driveshaft weights 9.57#
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New 1350 Trans Yoke for the 904:
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It weights 3.32# ------- .32# More than the stock one.
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Old Trans Yoke - Weighs 3.0#
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New 1350 Yoke for the rear End:
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It Weighs 2.31# (.20# Lighter than the stock one)
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Rear Yoke installed:
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Yoke Holding tool made from old Bed frames: - 1350 & Small Mopar.
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Hopefully the Removal of the Governor and the AL park gear will Get my 1.44# Back.

Greg
Author:  slantzilla [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:03 pm ]
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Just asking Greg, but why did you go to the 1350 joints?

Mike even had 7260 joints in the blue Buzzin' car. :?
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:14 pm ]
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Just take a healthy crap before racing and you won't even notice the 1.44 lbs. :P
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:06 pm ]
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Just asking Greg, but why did you go to the 1350 joints?

Mike even had 7260 joints in the blue Buzzin' car. :?
I wanted the over engineered stuff that Will be hard to break. I haven't had Much Luck with the Smaller Stock stuff on the dart or on this car.


I also like the fact that the caps are retained on the Outside rather than the inside. Personal Preference.



Greg
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:08 pm ]
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Just take a healthy crap before racing and you won't even notice the 1.44 lbs. :P

Yeah But my 1.44# of Crap isn't rotating in the driveline. :shock:

If it is I have some kind of problem to work out..


Greg
Author:  Romeo Furio [ Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:34 pm ]
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HAR-HAR,,,,!!!! :lol:
Author:  USAJon [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:14 am ]
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Just asking Greg, but why did you go to the 1350 joints?

Mike even had 7260 joints in the blue Buzzin' car. :?
I wanted the over engineered stuff that Will be hard to break. I haven't had Much Luck with the Smaller Stock stuff on the dart or on this car.


I also like the fact that the caps are retained on the Outside rather than the inside. Personal Preference.



Greg
I always like overkill
Ive seen some oldschool short cuts put peeps in the ground
Author:  Dart270 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:35 am ]
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I'm amazed that your stock DS was that light. It must have been pretty rusted/flaked. I usually get 16-19lbs for an A-body DS with slip yoke.

Lou
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:49 am ]
Post subject:  O2 Sensor Installed Etc. 4-9-12
@USA Jon, Yep I dont want any racing stuff to put me in the ground.. I have had my share of smallish mishaps that no one was ever hurt in 'cept my pocketbook.

@ Lou - I don't know what to tell ya - - I never weighed much of any car part before the Ruster project...

This car was on Salty PA roads from'68-02ish

then it sat in the back of my dad's lot from '02- 2009.

Then The Ruster Project began.

This was the stock '68 Valiant shaft that came with the car -& I had it shortened as well when I put the 8 3/4" In.. I remember the Driveshaft shop had removed alot of the scale when I got it back - possibly alot of the mass was removed by the rust and welding etc.

O2 Sensor is in:
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(it's reading dead Lean 'case I dont have an starter in the car to run the engine)



Greg
Author:  Dart270 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:12 am ]
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It's possible your "lightened" shaft was weak and crumpled up when it spun up under overwhelming torque... :shock:

Lou
Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Finally Back In one Piece 4-13-12
Probably one of the best Friday the 13th's I have seen in a while..


I thrashed on Ruster for the Last Few days to get the Trans assembled and In the car.. When I ordered some parts fro the 904 From A&A trans I opted for the Billet park Gear and the Governor Delete Sleeve.. these pieces are for a full boogie manual Shift trans - If you can still get all 3 gears in "D" Dont install these - You will blow up or ruin something.
The Weight I Added with the Driveshaft I more than mad up for Bu suning the Super Light Trick A&A trans parts.


Hitting the TNT here in pittsburgh Tomorrow.. I dont want to drive to MD and have something blow up or fall out in front of any of the covalts.. :oops:
Pics:


Old Steel park Gear & Governor Removed - Weighs a Hefty 2.81#
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New Flyweight Billet Gear & Sleeve Weighs 0.690#
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Parts Installed:
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So after Putting the Aluminum parts in the trans I am now .68# Lighter than Before..

2191.5-0.68=
2190.82# - Inching ever closer to the 2100# mark!


I will make some passes tomorrow and post updates.


Cheers!

Greg
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