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| Author: | StradSixer [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Power steering troubles. |
It's my understanding that both my power steering pump and the gearbox need to be replaced. Is this a big job, or something I could do over a nice chunk of my weekend? I'm sick of paying labor on things I could probably do, so I figured I'd explore my options here. Also, where is the best place to get the parts I need? Thanks in advance for your replies. By the way, it's on a '70 Dart Custom with a 225 |
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| Author: | vynn3 [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:58 am ] |
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I've never replaced either, but at least it's on the "good" side of the engine to work on. If it were me, I'd give it a shot. Just do your research first... VM |
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| Author: | Reed [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:04 am ] |
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This is definitely a weekend project. The only tricky part will be separating the pittman arm from the drag link, but there are tools for that. Make sure you have either a tie-rod separator or a gear puller (the preferred method). If I were in your place I would take this oportunity to scout the local boneyard for a junked Mopar Cop car and grab that steering gearbox. It will bolt right it (you have to use your original pittman arm) but it will be a "firm feel" or "fast ratio" steering gearbox. The pump and gearbox just bolt right on and are simple to swap and exchange. |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:07 am ] |
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H'mmm. What are the symptoms, and how do you conclude that both the pump and the box require replacement? |
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| Author: | mopar_nocar [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:34 am ] |
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if it was mine, i'd switch it to manual steering. unless my girlfriend was going to drive it. but i just like the idea of really simple engine compartments. sb |
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:54 am ] |
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Quote: If I were in your place I would take this oportunity to scout the local boneyard for a junked Mopar Cop car and grab that steering gearbox. It will bolt right it (you have to use your original pittman arm)
He's working on a '70, which has a smaller output shaft (where the Pitman arm connects) than the cop car boxes used. The cop car boxes will bolt into a '73-'76 A-body, but the interchange for his '70 is '62-'72 A and B body. The cop box would probably work if a '73-'76 A-body pitman arm were used, but there may be other differences in the steering linkage geometry that I'm not aware of that would complicate this swap.Quote: but it will be a "firm feel" or "fast ratio" steering gearbox.
The ratio on all the Mopar RWD passenger car power steering boxes is the same, 16:1 (3-1/2 turns lock-to-lock). The difference between the cop "Firm Feel" boxes and the regular ones is the thickness of the reaction rings, not the ratio.
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| Author: | SlantSixDan [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:05 am ] |
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Quote: if it was mine, i'd switch it to manual steering
HEAR HEAR! Definitely my preferred fix, too.See thread Here. |
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| Author: | Reed [ Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:20 am ] |
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| Author: | Demon Dick [ Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Steering Gearbox swap |
If you are going to swap over from power steering to manual, then you will have to find a steering column from a manual, and at least steal the center shaft from it. The shaft on a power steering unit is about 3 inches shorter due to the valve body that is incorporated into the power steering unit. |
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| Author: | dakight [ Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steering Gearbox swap |
Quote: If you are going to swap over from power steering to manual, then you will have to find a steering column from a manual, and at least steal the center shaft from it. The shaft on a power steering unit is about 3 inches shorter due to the valve body that is incorporated into the power steering unit.
An adapter is available from Flaming River and probably others too.
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