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Author:	zachiepompadore [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Trans Troubles
A couple days ago I noticed my Dart was having to rev really high to get change gears ( it's an auto) It didn't do it all the time but when it was really hot it would. Then it slipped out of gear at a stop light!! I check t he trans and it was at the "Add a pint" level. I've since added some and it seems to be fine. Do you think I may of done any real damage to the tranny? The dip stick smells just a little burnt, but not near as bad as my daily driven oldsmobile! There doesn't seem to be any visible leaks on the tranny so I'm a bit concerned. Other than that now it shifts well and runs strong. I dont' have any other problems than when I started (Fuel, radiator and brake leak!) In the even this trans goes the way of the buffalo how hard would it be to find a new one? It's in a 64 dart (push button auto) Would that be the 904 tranny? Any info I could get would be great![/img]

Author:	Jeffc [ Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:10 pm ]
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A rebuild is down the road if it is acting normal now, but yes burn smelling fluid is not good. Brown fluid is worse, and if it has specs of black- even worse. But if you keep a eye on your fluid level you should get some time out of it. I have babied one for many years. Filter change and band adjustment may extend its life. Even the best auto trans can have miner leaks and loose fluid over time. Most of the 904's and 727's do not like to be down any more than a pint, to quart, of fluid or they will start slipping. If you got burnt smelling fluid I would not recommend a compleat fluid change if the fluid is the least bit off color from red/pink, just what you need to change the filter. The burnt smell comes from bands and clutchs inside that have gotten hot and lost surface. There may be some damage, it just depends on how bad they were heated and for how long. 99.9% chance of a having a 904 in a 64 Dart. Some shops will not do the early 904, call around or find a local guru mopar guy that does it (the guru may save some money when the time comes)....... My $.02

Author:	zachiepompadore [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:47 am ]
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Hey thanks for the info! The fluid in the Tranny has always been nice and red, even when I got the car. It's shifts like a champ when working properly and has always gone pretty swift when I lay down on it. Now this band adjustment I hear talk of, how does this work? Would it be beyond this novice's scope? I think on lunch today I'm going to make some transmission calls maybe I could get a rough idea what a 904 would be to rebuild. It's a great car and I wouldn't mind putting more back into it..

Author:	Ron Parker [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:14 pm ]
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Just a personal thought I would stay away from national chain trans shops. Like aam ect and mr trans. They will usually quote you about 1200 dollars for a rebuild. Find a Mom and Pop shop that has been in business for say 40 years. I know that is hard to find ask some racers where to go. Me and Dale Rose And Norm Foster have our transmissions built by the same person that has been doing this for over 40 years. Mine has been in 7 years Dales about the same and Norms about two years. Our Transmissions take the most punishment you can put on one. Great transmission man pricless rebuilds about 350 dollars. Thanks Ron Parker I Did Not Get Where Im At Because Im Good I Had Slanted Friends

Author:	Jeffc [ Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:41 pm ]
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sounds like Rons got it down..... If you have a FSM, follow it, if not get one, you really should have one for your car. They can be had for fair price on CD these days.... Band adjustment needs a inch pounds tork wrench to do right (not foot pounds). One band adjusts on the outside of the case, the other when the pan is off. I would advise you get someone to help you out that has done it before so it gets done right, at least the frist time though it. Not building pianos here, pretty easy for a do-it-your self'er but it does need to be right. Filter swap is pretty easy to do. The only hard part is getting the gasket to fit right and not 'over' torking the pan once the filter is in place...... over tork the pan and the gasket will push out and leak.

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