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 Post subject: empty rear resevoir
PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:29 pm 
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Its been a while since I've been on here. It seems as if my car had to remind me to check in.
Tonight I hopped in the car and found the pedal a lot soft. I popped the hood and found the rear resevoir empty. I filled it and snapped the lid back on and took the baby sister home. The trip is about 7miles round trip and by the time I got back home the pedel felt normal again. This car has the MP disk brake conversion and is manual assist. I looked all around the car for leaks and found none. Checked hoses, steel line and even the backing plates for moister. I havn't pulled the drums to look at the wheel cylinders them selves, as I believe the rear resevoir feeds the front calipars. Any ideas as to where the fuild has gone to?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:34 pm 
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As the brakes wear it's normal for the reservoir level to drop; the rear chamber feeds the front brakes. Also, fluid can be pumped from the rear reservior into the front if the piston cups are worn.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:34 pm 
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My guess is that aliens probed your rear reservoir


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:49 am 
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Found fluid on inside of firewall.
Where are we getting the good master cylinders now?

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 Post subject: I got the two bolt one
PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 10:09 am 
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It is aluminum with plastic res. and you need a four to two bolt adaptor. I got mine off ebay. I just put it on and bled an entirely new system with no problems and good pedal feel. It was also WAY lighter than the iron doorstop I took off. It also came with the rubber retainer for the pushrod.

I think a few different people are selling them.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:55 pm 
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I'd like to stay with the iron 4 bolt one. Do we have a source for these, that are good?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:59 am 
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Bendix catalog shows 11323 as a NEW master for 10 inch drum brake car.
It is 1 inch bore.

Shows R11487 as a REMAN for a disc brake car (1 1/8 bore). Does not show a NEW disc brake MC.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:05 am 
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The 11323 is wrong. It has a semetrical resivore patern. I need a large rear resevore. I found out that the master I have is suppost to be a 1-1/8 bore. The pedal feels "OK" but is a little stiff. Anyone see a problem going to a 1" or even a 15/16" bore?
The reman part # doesn't seem to cross at Napa

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:52 am 
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The 11323 is wrong. It has a semetrical resivore patern.

That is correct, that is for a 10 drum brake car
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need a large rear resevore. I found out that the master I have is suppost to be a 1-1/8 bore. The pedal feels "OK" but is a little stiff. Anyone see a problem going to a 1" or even a 15/16" bore?
The reman part # doesn't seem to cross at Napa
R11487 is for the disc brake, and is a 1 1/8 bore. Bendix does not list a NEW MC for that application. A number for new, would be 11487, delete the "R".
This info is right from the Bendix CD catalog, which does an online automatic update, whenever it is accesed.

A smaller bore master cyl will require less pedel effort, but have more pedal travel.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:13 pm 
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Is there really any danger of using to small of a bore and having the pedel reach the floor before the brakes are applied? (providing system has been beld properly)

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