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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:17 pm 
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A fellow Cortez owner was looking for a new starter. The Cortez uses a Chrysler direct-drive starter. The part # we had was Chrysler part #3095758/076, but I can't find a cross reference for that # through any of my sources.

Napa shows three starters that look correct but with different part #s and vehicles. One is for a 67-71 dodge trucks and vans with a 383 #441084 unk teeth, the second is for a 66-69 426 Hemi #73255 9 teeth, and the third is supposedly for an 89 Chevy Tracker #76166 9 teeth. Couldn't find one at all for a /6 vehicle.

Another owner had bought the one supposedly for a Tracker and said it works fine (Its specs seem exactly the same as #2), but our vehicle cross reference info seems to be more in line with starter #1.

Does anyone know if they actually all used the same starter?

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:09 pm 
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A fellow Cortez owner was looking for a new starter.
If he wants a brand new original-type starter, there's one here, but it's priced rather high.

Here is the info on the direct-drive vs. gear-reduction starters.
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Chrysler part #3095758/076, but I can't find a cross reference for that # through any of my sources.
Because the first digit is wrong and the part after the slash doesn't belong. Actual P/N is 2095 758.
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Napa shows three starters that look correct
You can't go by appearance in a catalogue. Too many fit-and-mesh variables!
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an 89 Chevy Tracker
Definitely not.

There are specially-made variants of the late-model high-torque mini gear reduction starter that'll replace the direct-drive unit, but I gotta go keep an appointment for new tires, so "to be continued".

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:01 pm 
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Thanks Dan, but that doesn't look like the right starter. The nose cone placement is on the wrong side. Here is a pic of the one he removed Image
This is more like the starter #s I listed in the first post. I guess that answers the question about all being the same. I believe that the Cortez uses a marine bellhousing, if that makes any difference.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 6:52 pm 
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Oh, lookit there, you're right; the eBay starter is incorrectly identified. The one you depict fits the applications listed by the eBay seller; the one the eBay seller shows fits...who knows what.

Anyhow, this one will fit and work (disregard the "clocking" of the starter body/solenoid with respect to the mounting ears; this starter is designed to be "clocked" by the installer at whatever position is necessary for all needed clearance). Kind of expensive. This is the special 9-tooth mini starter I mentioned previously. Excellent pick, don't know how much it would cost to buy (and ship), though. I have the special 9-tooth pinion to convert a regular 10-tooth late Mopar mini starter, but I don't have time to put one together right now. And here is a refurbished compatible unit, but shipping will be costly.

I can check, if you like, and see if I have a good working 9-tooth starter on the shelf; what is your friend's timeframe on needing a replacement? And, for that matter, why does your friend not take the starter to a local auto electrical house and have it rebuilt?

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 7:50 pm 
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Robbmc has one in their garage sale section listed for $159.

Edit: The pic doesn't show the nosecone but he can add it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:39 pm 
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Thank you, Dan and Pierre. I saw the one at Robbmc, but wasn't sure it was correct. So, I assume the model for the 426 Hemi will fit then.

Dan, we suggested that he take it to an auto electrical house, and he may do that. But as a group, we like to keep an up to date parts X-Ref with vehicle X-refs. So, If I know what other vehicles it fits and potential sources, we may be able to help someone who is stranded.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:26 pm 
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Thank you, Dan and Pierre. I saw the one at Robbmc, but wasn't sure it was correct. So, I assume the model for the 426 Hemi will fit then.
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If I know what other vehicles it fits and potential sources, we may be able to help someone who is stranded.
Noble thought, but very unlikely because none of the interchangeable starters is readily available. It's always going to be a "we'll have to order it" situation if a random parts place can get one at all. The solenoid clocking issue makes it a real stinker to get an original-type starter. A fit-and-function interchange with no clocking issues is the Lester #3472, which is a '60-'61 (all applications) slant-6 starter. It is of a different design and, if it is not supplied with a solenoid mounted on the starter itself, requires a separate solenoid (NAPA Echlin ST-66). A battery cable is run from the battery + to one side of the solenoid, and another from the other pole of the solenoid to the starter's one and only threaded stud. The wires that were connected to the small terminal on the original starter's integral shifter solenoid are connected to the small terminal on the new solenoid, and then everything's all set.

(Lester numbers are used throughout the rebuilt-auto-electrics industry)

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:45 pm 
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As always, terrific information, Dan! I really appreciate it! I'm going to save that information in my alternate methods file.

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