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 Post subject: Shift kit recommendation
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:13 pm 
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Just as the title says.

904 going in 65 Valiant. Will be a street /strip car. It will start out primarily strip but I'm sure will move to the street rather quickly. Just want someones recommendation on what to get. I see the prices vary quite a bit and want to get the right thing.

I think the convertor I have for it is a 3200 stall. Correct me if I'm wrong Lou.

Rick


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:15 pm 
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Note, none of the shift kits will change shift points in automatic mode..........

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:40 pm 
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Note, none of the shift kits will change shift points in automatic mode..........
Not true!

BTW, Trans-Go shift kits seem to be well regarded.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:11 am 
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Note, none of the shift kits will change shift points in automatic mode..........
Not true!

BTW, Trans-Go shift kits seem to be well regarded.

Ok, which kit changes the shfit points?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:24 am 
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Trans-Go TF-2 changes the shift points.

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 Post subject: automatic shift points
PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:48 am 
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HUGHES will also make you one, and it it also is not a reverse Valve body. I ran one in the 90's and with a 5.0 lever. It was fast but you had to watch your trans temp when dialing in.
Max
Josh is correct also.

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Rick,

I don't know exact converter stall, but probably around 3000, yes.

Trans Go seems to be best regarded. I've done my own homebuilt shift kits, but a commercial one will be more reliable in results.

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 Post subject: THanks
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:55 am 
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Sounds like Trans go it is,

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:35 pm 
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Does anyone have a link (or copy) of the transgo instructions?

I want to see how involved this is (and how they go about changing the shift points)



thanks

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:13 pm 
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See This Link for Transgo Instructions.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:13 pm 
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Thanks for the instructions.


So,


What am I not getting?


The stock 1-2 and 2-3 shift springs are reused, so how can you change the shift points if you're not using stiffer springs or shimming the spring for more pressure?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:56 am 
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I'll partially answer my question..........

I've been going over the TF2 instructions and the transmission flow diagrams in the FSM.


Transgo raises the line pressure and modifies the throttle valve so that's there's more pressure to counteract the governor pressure to delay an up shift.

You adjust the throtlle valve so that you adjust the shift point.

The instructions talk about adjusting the 1-2 shift point with the throttle valve adjustments.


There is no mention of the 2-3 upshift.


Adjusting the throttle valve would raise both the 1-2 upshift and the 2-3 upshift.


That may be fine if you want both upshifts to go up, but what if you need just the 1-2 upshift to change?


(currently my WOT 904 shifts 1-2 at 3000rpm and 2-3 at 4000rpm)



So I still think I'm missing something..........

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 Post subject: I got it........
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:11 am 
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I understand


see:

http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic ... 934#286934

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