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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:11 am 
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3 Deuce Weber

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You need to know that just like yourself, I have had this problem before. LOL

Not like this time, The fram ph8A spin on is bonafide stuck. Ten years since last removal. Exposed to sun and other seizeing features.

I was even able to get up high on filter neck with band style compression removal tool and all it did was bend the removal tool.

Ten years since removed and no tool will ever take this one off.
Ya need to believe me on this so we don't waste time on foolish rhings like stick a srewdriver through it. Or,... theve got thes new wrenchs built like vise grips etc, etc.

It will not unsrew period. I have plenty of physical power, I have tried using two quality filter wrenches in tandem. I am guessing 140 pounds of tourque up high where filter has additional strength. And,.. No Way!

I doubt that the ole rip, cut filter off, and then chisel it off will even work on this one. I am serious as I have done many that way. This one, No Way, cept maybe wear it off.!!!

So here is what I want to do.

I want to get a chemical that will eat the rubber away. I can get at the rubber with an oil can, I just need the right chemical.

Anyone know of a chemical that eats rubber.? Gl/6


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:39 pm 
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I had one of those once.

A screwdriver just ripped it apart.


Luckily it was mounted on a pedestal that I could remove so I could deal with it off the car.

Then I used the chisel method on the bottom rolled part of the flange.


I think the chisel method is the way to go..........


Or use the screwdriver to rip the case off, then you can attack the bottom flange with some working room......

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:29 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber
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This sounds crazy but try tightening it first the backing it off. It has worked for me.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:31 pm 
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http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1260 ... ter+wrench


Tightens as you try to loosen


Hasn't failed me yet...........

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:33 pm 
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Brake fluid does nasty things to rubber........

Roger


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:33 pm 
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Brake fluid does nasty things to rubber........

Roger
Doesn't the rubber swell up.........

Think that would make it harder.........

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:11 pm 
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Acetone is hard on rubber

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:34 pm 
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Butane torch?
just don't set the garage on fire


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 5:30 am 
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3 Deuce Weber

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Butane is a very good idea and is next on my list. No doubt will do the deed.

BTW, vehicle is in a fenced grave area so fire is unlikely.
Thanks all, Gl/6


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:05 am 
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If you apply 140 pounds of torque to a filter and it doesn't move, the rubber gasket is NOT the culprit unless it has petrified, you probably have some corrosion in the threads that makes it stick. The advise to try to tighten it is a very good advise, but do it with a hard rap of a hammer on the chisel, and then try loosening it with the next blow. Repeat if necessary, alternate the direction of each blow and it will loosen eventually.

The real fun starts when you get a look at the stuff that used to be oil in it's former life...

Olaf.

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