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 Post subject: buying a carter BBD.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:39 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber

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hi! so im trying to buy a carb. its going in my 73 dodge b200 van, which im doing a super six upgrade on. i bought an intake from 1977 i believe. and im looking at one but it says its for an automatic and my van is a manual. soo... would any of these carbs work? or do you have any recommendations? im having someone do it for me so im just trying to piece everything together for them.

thanks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/carter-2 ... _500wt_956

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/rebuilt- ... _500wt_956


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:43 pm 
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Car Model: 76 D100
I recommend THIS ONE

It's not a BBD, nit it IS NOS and will work with your motor.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:25 pm 
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I guess he bought the auction ended. is it a hooley replacement for the bbd or ? what model is it? what are the advantages over the bbd?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:25 pm 
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awesome! thanks reed, i just bought it. ive been racking my brain trying to figure this out. ive read the super six page on here at least 500 times.

so next, i need a throttle cable, two barrel carburetor choke thermostat coil. cable bracket and return spring bracket, (Automatic transmission kickdown linkage for a two barrel carburetor)? even if i have a manual. any points in a good direction to get these items? also i have a super six air cleaner do you think itll work with this universal carb i just got?

thank you again!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:33 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber

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i did buy it, its a universal holley 2 barrel carb, for 76-77 stamped r8691.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:37 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber

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actually i just looked it up and its a holley 2280.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:18 am 
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does the super six aircleaner fit this carb?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:32 am 
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does the super six aircleaner fit this carb?
Onemoparman- read THIS


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:56 am 
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3 Deuce Weber

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how do i buy a throttle cable for this? i know i need a smaller one for a v8 car. actually i might have just answered my own question...

do i buy a throttle cable for like a v8 aspen?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:14 pm 
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Albycrow- your van doesn't have a throttle cable. It has a rod-style throttle linkage. You can easily adapt that to work with a two barrel carburetor. You do not need to purchase a new cable style linkage. Just put the end o the throttle rod on the throttle stud on the carb and hook the kickdown up as shown in the diagrams in the Super Six article. Your biggest challenge will be getting a two barrel air cleaner that fits under the doghouse.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:18 pm 
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excellent. so then do i need to get a two barrel carburetor choke thermostat coil, cable bracket and a return spring bracket? or am i good in those areas too? sorry for my ignorance ive just never done anything like this before.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 1:45 pm 
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Don't worry about asking questions, that's how you learn. You should also read the article I recommended to onemoparman.

To Super Six a van, you need the two barrel carb, two barrel intake, two barrel thermostatic choke pulloff coil and rod assembly, two barrel air cleaner, two barrel throttle return bracket and springs assembly, and two barrel kickdown if you have and automatic.

You can use a cable-style kickdown if you can't find the fairly rare van specific two barrel kickdown.

You main obstacle will be getting an air cleaner. Due to the offset of the carburetor under the doghouse, you can't use the passenger car or truck Super Six air cleaner assembly. Dodge did make a van specific slant six two barrel air cleaner assembly that is both smaller and offset like the one barrel air cleaner, but they are also very rare. In ten years of looking I have only ever found one.

On the left is the passenger car and truck Super Six air cleaner, n the right is the van specific Super Six air cleaner. Note the much smaller diameter and the offset of the carb.

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Detail of carb offset:

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There are aftermarket chrome air cleaners that are small enough in diameter to work, but (a) they are very small and you will need to change the filter often and (b) they are open element which means your performance and fuel economy will suffer since you are sucking in the hot air at the top of the engine compartment. Your best option will probably be to get a one barrel air cleaner off of a 1980s slant six ant modify the base to work on a two barrel carb. you could cut the two barrel carb throat out of a 318 air cleaner and weld it into the one barrel slant six air cleaner. At the same time, you could also fabricate a cold air intake and a heated air intake system.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:07 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber

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whats the best vehicle to get those parts off of, or thats compatible with my van? or better yet i can find them new off of a parts website.

thank you again, i think im going to have my air cleaners combined as that seems like the best option.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:09 pm 
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3 Deuce Weber

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actually, can i just get these parts off of another dodge van, but say the 318 V8 with a 2 barrel carb?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:09 pm 
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The intake, carb, throttle return assembly, and choke coil assembly can be gotten off of any two barrel slant six equipped vehicle. The air cleaner will be a slant six van only item, and the factory kickdown will be a Super Six equipped Dodge van only item. The two barrel air cleaner throat can come off of any 318 or slant six two barrel air cleaner- car, truck, or van.

An improved design choke pulloff can be purchased here, you cannot use a V-8 choke pulloff assembly on a slant six.

Carbs can come from many sources, just make sure you get a slant six specific carb with the correct choke linkage or know how to adapt the v-8 linkage to the slant six. Be wary of remanufactured carbs. Many people have had very bad luck with them. Try to find a good condition used carb or a NOS carb.

I would recommend spending the money and getting the cable operated kickdown. Lokar and Bouchillion are the two most mentioned brands, but if you are creative you can make your own out of a lawnmower throttle cable.

Read that article I referred you to. Nearly ever Super Six question you will have is answered in it.


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