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Author:  sixsignet [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:37 am ]
Post subject:  MC push-rod installation

The rubber bushing (FSM calls it a ring) -

Do you place it in the cavity in the back of the piston and push the push-rod into it?

Or do you put it on the push-rod before insertion?

I can't find this detail in the factory service manual, and I can't remember how I did it once years ago.

Author:  Greg Ondayko [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:39 am ]
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Put it on the MC rod and then use your foot to "press" it into the receptacle in the MC with your foot on the brake pedal.

a bit of light oil or slippery vinyl treatment will help the rubber not get chewed up / destroyed during this process.


I am no0t sure if this is the "correct" way to do it, but I have many cars with this process done on and no problems!


Greg

Author:  Fopar [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:00 pm ]
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"Do you place it in the cavity in the back of the piston and push the push-rod into it? "

That is how I do mine, a small amount of something slippery (water on the hole)!

Richard

Author:  sixsignet [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:58 pm ]
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I put it on the MC rod and I did feel a "pop" when standing on the brake pedal, but it did not link up.

Author:  mcnoople [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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Not all master cylinders have the grooved recess for a manual brake pushrod.

Author:  sixsignet [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:12 pm ]
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I think this one does. *
It is a Raybestos MC36221.

I took the MC off the firewall and I am starting over with bench-bleeding.

The rubber bushing still looks undamaged...

It came with a new rubber bushing, but now I wonder because it looks like it might be a power brake-type without the recess.

http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic ... ht=mc36221

http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic ... 1&start=15

I bought the MC several months ago (no time to install) and painted it with Eastwood brake grey, so I own it.

Anyone want a barely-used master cylinder, cheap?


*or maybe not

Author:  sixsignet [ Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:30 pm ]
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OK.

I compared the backs of the old and new MCs.

The 36221 has a similar recess and step, but bigger diameter.

The 36221 piston is held in with a metal shipping tab or the rubber boot retainer. No e-clip.

The piston on the old MC has an e-clip retainer.

So, what is the best way to clear out the brake fluid from a master cyl so that you can ship it?

I guess I need a 36338 to get a 15/16 bore like my old one.

Author:  sixsignet [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:59 pm ]
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It really looks like the new MC would work with an oversize rubber ring.
The stock one has a .475 OD, and it looks like a .5 OD ring would lock the rod in.
I think I will experiment with some heatshrink or electrical tape next weekend.

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