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Author:  64DartGT [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Another timing question.....
Ok my timing tab reads 0 degrees, a line which I think is the 5 degree mark, then 10 degrees, and another line which I guess is 15 degrees...when timing the motor get number one piston to TDC and timing mark on balancer to 0 degrees on the tab? When I get the mark to 0 degrees on the tab the car will not start, however when I get it to 5 degrees on the tab it starts right up, but after getting to full temp, driving down the road and back it shuts off when the clutch is pressed in...timing is a bit confusing for me so any advice is appreciated....Thanks :D
Author:  64DartGT [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:53 pm ]
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Ok looking at the Motor's Auto Repair Manual from 1964 it shows my timing tab to be from a 1961 Slant six, if that makes since. Guess the motor is timed from the 5 degree mark as the 0 degree mark would be on a 1964 timing tab, it is marked with permanent marker to show its position. Guess that's why it cranks and runs from that position.....Also decoded my engine to make sure its a 1964 225 Date is 3-13-64 and motor code is V22... :D
Author:  emsvitil [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:07 pm ]
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Are you sure the outer ring of the crank pulley hasn't moved in relation to the inner ring?
Author:  64DartGT [ Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:13 pm ]
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Yes, looking at the service manual the timing tab isn't for a 1964 its for a 1961, that's a 1964 Auto Repair manual....
Author:  DusterIdiot [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:59 am ]
Post subject:  Huh?
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Are you sure the outer ring of the crank pulley hasn't moved in relation to the inner ring?
I would support this question as well. The slant isn't that picky and should fire up whether the static setting is at 5ATDC or 8 BTDC...if it doesn't fire with a 5 degree change something is really off (damper, timing chain, cam phasing), typically the 'no fire' zone on a stocker is almost in the 18-20 degree zone if the engine is in really good condition (you sure it's not the case of a 1964 damper being used on a 1961 timing tab and the position is off more than you think?)

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Author:  64DartGT [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:18 am ]
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Could be, but the timing tab in the service manual for a 1961 matches the one on the motor, the tab it shows for the 1964 looks different.....?
Author:  64DartGT [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 12:10 pm ]
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Pic of timing tab, looks like the one referenced in the service manual for a 1961 225 slant six.....
Author:  64DartGT [ Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:57 pm ]
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Could someone post a pic of their timing tab on a 64 Dart engine so I can see the difference in timing tabs...Thanks
Author:  64DartGT [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:20 pm ]
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Got Slant back running...bad condenser......replaced and running now.....ordered piston TDC stop tool from Jegs to find true TDC....
Author:  Danarchy [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:33 pm ]
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sorry, I cannot get a picture of the tab on the car right now, but what you have is correct for a 1964 /6. (tab from my 64' Dart GT)
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Author:  64DartGT [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:56 pm ]
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Thank you for the picture, now to verify marks TDC on number one piston and timing mark on crank shaft pulley should line up with the 0 degree mark on timing tab? :)
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