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| Author: | GregCon [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:07 am ] | |||||
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No, not the classic song by The Band but rather some pics of car parts hanging on my trusty Centurion scale
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| Author: | Rob Simmons [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:28 pm ] |
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Cool. Thanks for posting! |
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| Author: | Badvert65 [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:33 pm ] |
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Excellent. What year is the 225 engine, 67? |
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| Author: | Greg Ondayko [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:16 pm ] |
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Time to go 170 to save ~ 100# over the front axle  Greg |
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| Author: | GregCon [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 4:18 pm ] |
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It's a 68 Valiant. When I removed the engine Saturday, it was the first time it had been out, It had a good run, lol. It had all the signs of an engine that had spent a lot of its life on the cruddy oils that existed for many decades. But also of someone using non-detergent motor oil. There was a solid crust of hard dirt on the bottom of the pan. Not oily sludge, but almost-dry crud. The entire pickup was under the dirt, so whatever oil it was getting was making its way through a little hole that found its way in the crud. |
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| Author: | Badvert65 [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:08 pm ] |
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Quote: Time to go 170 to save ~ 100# over the front axle
The 170 is missing a lot of stuff, water pump, carb, accessories, etc. I don't think the 170 would be that much lighter than an equal 225.
Greg |
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| Author: | GregCon [ Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:56 pm ] |
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The 170 is missing the alternator and associated brackets. It's also missing the ignition coil and water pump/pulley and the motor mounts and some smaller brackets like the PS mount and throttle bracket. And carb. But, it has a lighter crank and 1" less of cast iron deck. Plus (I believe) shorter rods. When I strip the 225 down, I'll try to make it equal the 170 in terms of 'stuff' and we'll see what the difference is. |
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| Author: | GregCon [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:59 am ] | ||
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OK....here is the 225 in the same state of dress as the 170. There are tiny differences, like the throttle bracket is still on the 225, but they're essentially the same. 434lbs - 225 408lbs -170 I actually thought the difference would be more. As for bolted-on stuff, the big offender was the alternator (and cast iron bracket). I didn't weigh it but it sure had some heft.
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| Author: | Greg Ondayko [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:01 am ] |
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Good To Know! Thanks for those Numbers Greg |
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| Author: | Badvert65 [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:47 am ] |
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Just an FYI.... The cast iron alternator mount weighs in at 2.8 lbs. My 65 alternator weighed 13 lbs. I did manage to shave the factory bracket down 1.15 lbs., but still heavy for what it does. jus' sayin' |
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| Author: | GregCon [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:34 am ] |
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"Adding power makes you faster on the straights. Subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere." Colin Chapman As someone who has owned lots of Mopars (which are almost always heavier than their competitors) I've gotten more interested in cars that don't weigh more than they need to. As a Hellcat owner, it amazes me that the car can be so freakin' fast yet still is a portly 4500lbs. That's over 1200lbs. more than my '68 499" Barracuda which has had no real lightening done to it aside from 'naturally occurring' hot rodding stuff. |
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| Author: | Badvert65 [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:23 am ] |
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I am an avid drag racer and I have always been conscious of weight. I have a huge spreadsheet with all sorts of weights listed. The 225 is listed as weighing in at 475 lbs. My race motor is coming in at just under 400lbs (NOT an aluminum block). Less mass = better performance. Oh, I would LOVE to have a Hell Cat engine in my 07 Magnum. Too much is not enough..... |
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| Author: | slantzilla [ Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:44 pm ] |
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Quote: Time to go 170 to save ~ 100# over the front axle
And lose 100 horsepower to the rear axle. Greg 
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| Author: | Greg Ondayko [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:02 am ] |
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Some make up for that with the hose. But yes you are right. Greg |
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| Author: | GregCon [ Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:41 am ] |
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Well....I still see the 170 as the Slant Six in its finest and purest form. Kinda like Led Zeppelin's first album, lol. |
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