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 Post subject: bolt pattern??!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:10 pm 
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can a 5x4.75 bp rim fit on a 5x4.5 bp ?

i need to know because i need to buy a set of rims for my 73 swinger
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:14 pm 
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There are uni-lug wheels that have oval bolt holes, but unless the wheels are made this way, no. Also, most Chevy wheels aren't offset in far enough for an A body. For example, most 7" wide Chevy wheels have 3.5" of backspace while original Chrysler 15x7" wheels have 4 1/4" backspacing. That 3/4" makes a big difference on the tires you can use.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:37 pm 
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what if i wanted to use mustang wheels on my mopar?

these are the specs:0mm offset, 4.50" backspacing.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:29 pm 
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So they are 8" wide? How about the rest of the specs? Chances are they will stick out a little too far.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:42 pm 
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well, they are 17x8 with a 5x4.5 bp

backspacing is "4.50

i will also be using a rear lift kit,but nothing too dramatic.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:48 pm 
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Hmm, my 17x8" Mustang wheels have nearly 5 3/4" backspacing. They fit on the front of my '72 Swinger (with '73+ disc brakes) without a spacer. The back requires a spacer about 3/4-1" thick. I'm using a different rear axle so I don't have to use spacers. The wheels in question will likely rub on the front fenders, but would fit the back ok.

One other thing. Lifting the back of the car will hurt the handling.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:52 pm 
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so what i need to do is get a rear 3/4 spacer on my drums?

becasue i was planning on cutting out my rear quarter wall in order to fit the well diameter. so, technically, wouldnt the spacer just cause more tight fitment on the panel?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:59 pm 
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If you use the factory Ford +30mm offset wheels you need a 3/4" to 1" spacer. With an 8" wheel with 0 offset you will not need a spacer. 245/45R17 tires will fit a '73 Swinger without cutting anything if you use the right combination of axle width and wheel offset.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:06 pm 
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so then my only problem now is just buying the wheels, right?
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I really can't say.

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You MUST get wheels with a 5 lug, 4 inch pattern. Anything else will quite literally, not fit over your lug studs. The back spacing can be determined and calculated, but it's irrelevant if the bolt pattern isn't right.

Do NOT go the route of wheel adapters. They have a tendency to fail at the worst time, and are generally unsafe.

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Do NOT go the route of wheel adapters. They have a tendency to fail at the worst time, and are generally unsafe.
Amen! There are numerous wheel and tire combinations available, don't risk your life on something that doesn't fit.

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You MUST get wheels with a 5 lug, 4 inch pattern. Anything else will quite literally, not fit over your lug studs. The back spacing can be determined and calculated, but it's irrelevant if the bolt pattern isn't right.

Do NOT go the route of wheel adapters. They have a tendency to fail at the worst time, and are generally unsafe.

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His car is a '75, so it might have 5 on 4.5" lug spacing from the factory.


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His car is a '75, so it might have 5 on 4.5" lug spacing from the factory.
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Whoops! :oops: You're right. Correct my last.....it'll be the 5-on-4.5" pattern.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:27 pm 
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so if my wheels have a 5.75 backspacing they'll fit?

and, how bad is the rear lifting, even if its only 2 inches?
i just recently purchased a lift kit way cheap on ebay and was thinking of throwing it on. it'll be a daily driver, so whats the best way to go to lift up to 2 inches.
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