My 74 Dart needs R-12 for the a/c. I found somebody with three cans and he said, "make me an offer." How much should I offer without insulting him or overpaying?

Check e-bay for going price.

It was around $25 a can last time I looked.

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

$25.00 a can is a STEAL. A few years ago I heard that R12 was the second most smuggled thing in to this country behind cocaine. Around here, if you can find R12 it goes for $1200 and up for a 30# can. I haven't seen a little can in 10 tears or so. Funny thing is I remember "back in the day" using it to "shrink" freeze plugs to make them easier to put in.

TopHat

I got a 30 # drum of R-12, at my local Advance Auto Parts store, last month for $700. $20-$25 for a 12 oz can is about right. Larger can a little more. Should be a little over $2 per oz.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

Make sure the valve is closed and put a leakproof cap on the 30# canister........

Awhile back I dug out my 30# canister from my shed to find out it was empty.

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Ed
64 Valiant 225 / 904 / 42:1 manual steering / 9" drum brakes

I always do that. I might need some of the refrigerants, I have on hand from 20 years ago. R-11, R-12, R-22, R-500, R-502.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

Use a bit of propane instead..........

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Richard (aka Fingers)

Not only no; HELL NO!!!!

This topic has been discussed at length in numerous threads. It's a bad idea because it's dangerous.

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David Kight
'62 Valiant Signet, White
'98 Dodge Dakota
'06 Jeep Liberty

Growing older is unavoidable but growing up is strictly optional.

It's a shame you can't still buy R-12 at the parts store. DuPont conned us and the federal government told us that freon was damaging the ozone layer. Actually their exclusive patent on R-12 was about to expire, and this massive public relations lie convinced all of us to believe R-134 was better and more environmentally safe. Well, guess what. R-134 is about to be removed from autos. (Yep, DuPont's exclusive patent is running out again.) It may take two or three years, but you can expect the loss of the exclusive patent on R-134 to come out with a "better" refrigerant, and the automobile industry will convert.

Last I heard, DuPont was still manufacturing R-12 and selling it to Mexico and South America. Who needs R-12 today? We have that idiot Gore. How many of you have had a nice warm winter due to global warming?

Oh, god, not this tired old loaf of baloney again...

The patent on R12 expired many decades ago, long before more than about three people in the world knew what the ozone layer was. Look it up for yourself; the US Patent Office is fully online. And R134a is to be phased out because it's a greenhouse gas, not because of an expired patent. This babble about expired patents and massive public lies is utterly without basis in fact, but that doesn't stop the usual froth-mouthed suspects on AM talkback radio from repeating it again and again and again and again.
Meteorology (weather) is not the same as climatology (climate). Weather is affected by climate, but that's the extent of it. Saying "Oh, huh, there's no such thing as global warming because it got cold this winter" is silly and ignorant.

Everyone has a right to his own opinion and politics, but it's not reasonable to expect an opinion to hold any weight in public if it's based on made-up conspiracy theories.

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一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Actually, one of the refrigerants, being considered for use in mobile A/C is that well known greenhouse gas "carbon dioxide".

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

take it out of the ozone and put it in cars?

Actually, the claim is, that the chlorine molecules in R-12 and other similar refrigerants, deplete the ozone layer. R-134a (it has no chlorine molecule) is now being listed as contributing to the "greenhouse" effect. I am not going to make this a political discussion.

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Charrlie_S
65 Valiant 100 2dr post 170 turbo
66 Valiant Signet 170 nitrous
64 Valiant Signet
64 Valiant 4dr 170
64 Valiant 4dr 225

I really appreciate this website. I especially cherish SlantSixDan's knowledge and assistance. It's tax season at my office. I needed a good laugh. I wish I had made a bet that Dan would respond to my freon ranting. Got you, Dan!

I still need freon.

From this tired old Southern boy, former Southern Baptist, the g in God should be capitalized.

Some refrigerant history...
http://www.imcool.com/articles/aircondi ... istory.php

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Joshua