Slant *        6        Forum
Home Home Home
The Place to Go for Slant Six Info!
Click here to help support the Slant Six Forum!
It is currently Tue Dec 03, 2024 3:37 am

All times are UTC-08:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1 2 Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Carter linkage
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:19 am 
Offline
1 BBL (New)

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 7
Car Model:
Hi everyone. I have a carter 1bbl bbs on my 225 /6 from a 71 valiant. I need the throttle linkage since the previous carb was a holley 1bbl and it hooks up quite different. So does anyone know what the linkage looks like or even a link to a site to purchase it from?

_________________
1971 Plymouth Valiant


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:33 am 
Offline
Turbo Slant 6

Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:58 pm
Posts: 569
Location: New Jersey USA
Car Model:
Was the carter BBS stock on a 71? I know my 63 had one (with the shaft-type linkage It had a U-shaped bracket on the end of the throttle shaft that connected to the gas pedal via rods & levers),& I recall once seeing a Rochester 1 bbl on a 68 Dart (throttle cable), but I thought in the 70's A-bodies you only had the Holley 1920 , then later replaced by the Holley 1945 (also throttle cable types). I'd imagine the 2bbl "export" /6 also used a cable, like the later super six.

_________________
63 Valiant Wagon
225 - 4 bbl


Last edited by WagonsRcool on Sun May 15, 2011 11:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:34 am 
Offline
Supercharged
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:32 pm
Posts: 7834
Location: Portland-ish
Car Model: Fiat 500e
You have the wrong carburetor if the linkage doesn't fit. The linkage is year dependent (and with/without AC on '66 and earlier cars) rather than carburetor make dependent.

_________________
Joshua


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:59 am 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
Quote:
Was the carter BBS stock on a 71?
Yes, the BBS was factory-installed on some 1971 slant-6 engines in passenger cars, trucks, and vans. 1971 was its last year in US/Canada passenger cars, 1974 in US/Canada trucks and vans, later than that in export applications. 1973 was the last year of the Holley 1920, 1974 was the first year of the Holley 1945, and as J. Skinner says, the throttle linkage configuration is mostly dependent on year and application, not carburetor make.

Darrylekg, let's have some photos of the carb you're trying to make work in your '71. Where did you get it?

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:18 pm 
Offline
1 BBL (New)

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 7
Car Model:
Hope this is enough to figure it out.
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

_________________
1971 Plymouth Valiant


Top
   
 Post subject: Hmmm...
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:42 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:27 pm
Posts: 9714
Location: Salem, OR
Car Model:
If the rod linkage bracket could be unbolted from the throttle shaft lever, you might be able to install a stud from another carb (Holley,Carter) so the cable can be attached, or it may require the removal of it and drilling an appropriate hole so a pin can be inserted to hold the cable like the late cars have.

Definately going to take some modification and thinking to make this work and work correctly.

Next most fun question is your car an automatic?

-D.Idiot


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 9:01 pm 
Offline
1 BBL (New)

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 7
Car Model:
Yep its automatic. So that means the kickdown will be an issue too right?

_________________
1971 Plymouth Valiant


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:19 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
You're trying to use a '60-'66 A-body carburetor on a '67-up car. Won't work. You might be able to hack it, but it'll be halfassed. Get a correct carburetor for the car; looks like you've got all the right linkage pieces and just the wrong carb.

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:49 am 
Offline
1 BBL (New)

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 7
Car Model:
So I pulled apart the Holley 1920 which was on the car previously and was able to swap out the throttle from the Carter. Now everything is bolted up correctly. Worked out pretty good.

_________________
1971 Plymouth Valiant


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:16 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
Uh…how exactly did you do that? The throttle shaft from a Holley carburetor does not fit on a Carter carburetor.

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject: Lol...
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:49 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:27 pm
Posts: 9714
Location: Salem, OR
Car Model:
Throttle Lever maybe?

:?:


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Lol...
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:11 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor & Contributor

Joined: Thu Oct 31, 2002 5:39 pm
Posts: 24449
Location: North America
Car Model:
Quote:
Throttle Lever maybe?

:?:
Yahbut, that doesn't interchange, either. Neither does the throttle body.

I'm asking for more than curiosity's sake; if the original poster has cobbled it together, it may seem to work OK but could easily fail with catastrophic results (suddenly can't open throttle; car is dead in traffic…can't close throttle, car is an uncontrolled missile…)

_________________
一期一会
Too many people who were born on third base actually believe they've hit a triple.

Image


Top
   
 Post subject: ???
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:05 pm 
Offline
Board Sponsor
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:27 pm
Posts: 9714
Location: Salem, OR
Car Model:
Quote:
Yahbut, that doesn't interchange, either. Neither does the throttle body.
I'm curious as well...It didn't look like the rod linkage part could be unbolted from the lever like the 70's Holley 1920 Economaster I have.
That's why I asked as well...

:shock:

-D.Idiot


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:22 am 
Offline
1 BBL (New)

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 7
Car Model:
Sorry I haven't checked this thread in a few days so I didn't notice the new posts. I assure you the way everything was put together on the carb was perfect. The Carter is already on the intake manifold so I won't unbolt it just for pictures sake. But I will take pictures of the new setup from the outside of the Carter and much more detailed pics of the Holley and the pieces missing. I think that should clear it up. Sorry if my wording is choppy I'm posting this with my iPhone. Pics will be up tomorrow.

_________________
1971 Plymouth Valiant


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:34 am 
Offline
1 BBL (New)

Joined: Thu May 12, 2011 8:00 pm
Posts: 7
Car Model:
Below is the throttle lever? linkage? (not what it's called) from the carter that I removed.
Image

Here is the side view of the holley with it's parts removed.
Image

And another angle.
Image

The car isn't at my house at the moment so I don't have the pics of the carter as it sits now. I will try to get them taken soon. Hope this helps to clear things up a bit.

_________________
1971 Plymouth Valiant


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ]  Go to page 1 2 Next

All times are UTC-08:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], mr.norm and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited