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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2020 5:52 pm 
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You would need to mill both the intake and the headers. If you didn't do both, getting the seal with the gasket and all the triangle washers and nuts would be a nightmare.
Mike Sargent purchased a set of Hyper Pak exhaust manifolds that someone had done just what you described but cut on the bottom side. Why I have no idea.

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:57 am 
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Mark Goodman supplied this link for stainless collectors and parts.
Very nice stuff.
Burns Stainless
https://burnsstainless.com/

I think this is the supplier for these collectors:


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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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Whose rail is that in the picture?


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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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Jeff Kendall.

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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Dug out an 85 Clifford catalog.
Under Race Headers, "Modifications required if used with Weber carburetor assembly. Special order on request"
Under Side Draught Manifolds, "Modifications to headers may be required"

Nice.

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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Aren't race cars fun? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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Dug out an 85 Clifford catalog.
Under Race Headers, "Modifications required if used with Weber carburetor assembly. Special order on request"
Under Side Draught Manifolds, "Modifications to headers may be required"

Nice.
Back then Jack was still alive, and he let you know it wasn't "plug and play".

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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I have at least one pair of Clifford shorty headers that bolted right up to a 3X2 weber setup. I think (hope) they are the ones still on the 66 Valiant (where I originally ran the Clifford/Weber intake) and they will bolt up once again...

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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And I have a set of shorties and they don't bolt up.
Close but they need "Modifications" to clear.
So I guess it's one of those what day did they weld each set up.

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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So I guess it's one of those what day did they weld each set up.
Truthfully, If you build a Clifford intake and you build a Clifford header, those to pieces should "sing in perfect harmony"! No excuses, just make them right. We are talking about a couple bends, that's it. It is not reinventing the wheel!! :D :D The Clifford big tube race headers I was so happy to get, were unreconizable as a performance piece after I got through beating 3 tube half shut. And that was to fit their 4 barrel intake, not the Webers. Never used it until I had Robbie fix it right. Sorry for the rant!! :D

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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I have a never installed Clifford intake I had to grind to get it to fit my Clifford headers too.

Race cars is fun. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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I have Clifford shorties and a Clifford intake and I don't remember grinding anything. Being lucky rocks! Being forgetful helps. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
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They mean the Clifford Weber 3X2 intake. All Clifford headers fit the standard 4bbl intakes.

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 Post subject: Re: 1972 Dodge Colt
PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:59 am 
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All Clifford headers fit the standard 4bbl intakes.
See my post above . Their race tube headers do not fit their 4 barrel either. At least mine did not. (Obviously they don't make them anymore anyway.

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