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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:10 pm 
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Guys - new to the forum! Currently working on my 1965 Dodge D100 Utiline and hoping for some input.

Truck is in great condition (burns a fair bit of oil) - everything is currently stock. I've checked compression and had the head completely rebuilt from a local shop (wish we would've milled the head/overbored - still might be an option if budget allows in the future).

Everyone i know says to find a 318 or a larger V8 and do the full swap, curious for input on the forum.

Current Set up:

1965 Dodge D100 Utiline
Stock 225 Slant 6
745A Transmission - 3 Speed
3.55 Gear Ratio

Planned Modifications:

AussieSpeed Long Runner 2-Barrel Intake Manifold
Holley 350 CFM 2-Barrel Carb
Dual Dutra Exhaust Manifold - Dual Exhaust
Mopar OEM Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit

Considering a street grind for a mild build (Oregon Cams proposed the following for a bout $250 to regrind my cam/lifters)

219/219 @ .050”, 264/264 adv., .437”/.437” lift, 110 sep

I have a novice mechanical ability but am slowly putting this together and open to any input. Thanks Guys!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:12 pm 
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I upsized the tires on the stock rims to LT235/85R16 Tires last month. That helped a little but it seems to be working hard going 65.

My main goal is to have a truck that can cruise at 70 MPH and tow comfortably when needed (I have a 18' 1973 Crestliner Muskie Boat and a ‘59 Shasta Camper).

If I'm pissing up a rope with my current mod plan - i'll welcome honest feedback


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:45 pm 
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What are the gross weights of your boat / trailer and the shasta?

That is a pretty long camper.
Those are very tall tires. What is your rear axle ratio?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:04 pm 
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Think he said 3.55 above.
"59" is probably the year of the camper not the length haha back then the shasta's were most below 20' long.
The cam he is talking about sounds like the specs of my Oregon cam which is the 819. Specs around familiar although I'm not looking at my sheet at the moment.
235/85-16 is about a 32" tall tire.
The mentality has been "dump the 6, put an 8 in" for years.
This site is full of people who prove the "dump the 6" mentality wrong ......I'm doing 2 trucks. One is keeping a /6 albeit a little hopped up the other one is a heavier 3/4 ton that's keeping it's v8.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:38 pm 
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Think he said 3.55 above.
"59" is probably the year of the camper not the length haha back then the shasta's were most below 20' long.
The cam he is talking about sounds like the specs of my Oregon cam which is the 819. Specs around familiar although I'm not looking at my sheet at the moment.
235/85-16 is about a 32" tall tire.
The mentality has been "dump the 6, put an 8 in" for years.
This site is full of people who prove the "dump the 6" mentality wrong ......I'm doing 2 trucks. One is keeping a /6 albeit a little hopped up the other one is a heavier 3/4 ton that's keeping it's v8.
Yes - #819 cam grind is the spec. Shasta camper is 1959 (not 59’) only 16’ long haha.

Boat/Trailer = 2500 #
Shasta Camper = 2100 #

Any info is appreciated. I’ve already gotten started on the build; figured I’d ask for any recommendations.

hopeful I’m not wasting my time….


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:42 pm 
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With those tires I would change the Rear axle ratio to a 4.10 or maybe a 3.91.


Okay. I thought it was 59' as he typed..
A '59 less than 20' will be fine.

I would still like to know the weights of those trailers.
Towing on flat lands or in the mountains?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:47 pm 
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With those tires I would change the Rear axle ratio to a 4.10 or maybe a 3.91.


Okay. I thought it was 59' as he typed..
A '59 less than 20' will be fine.

I would still like to know the weights of those trailers.
Towing on flat lands or in the mountains?
Ha yea - that was confusing I agree.

Boat/Trailer = 2500 #
Shasta Camper = 2100 #


I live in Wisconsin. In my mid 30’s with two young boys. Hoping to do some road trips - possibly out to the badlands/out West but likely just around the Midwest. At this rate I don’t even know if cruising speed at 70 mph is attainable in the truck with my planned modifications.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 7:16 pm 
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While I haven't had my truck on the road yet when I did with the original engine it did 70 without a problem though it took a bit to get there.
I've had other/6 trucks, no problem getting to 70 with any of them. Towing might make a difference though. With the improvements you have in mind I think it will make it easier to get there


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:52 pm 
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I'd rethink that Aussiespeed intake. Not really well matched to the vehicle and intended usage, and super-not-cost-effective. You'd be better served by a stock-shaped, heated 2bbl intake, whether that be a factory 2bbl item, an Offenhauser 4bbl intake with a carb adapter plate on it, or a 1bbl intake modified to suit a parallel 2bbl setup (photo documentation of a very well done such conversion is here, and there's a nice pictorial on modifying a 1bbl intake here).

Dutra Duals are a fine idea, configured as originally conceived (rear half of a cut/capped stock exhaust manifold + new front-half casting—not two new castings). Exhaust system recipe: 2" pipe off each of the manifolds, join those two 2" pipes into one 2.5" pipe with this collector, and run 2-1/4" pipe into this late-model Hemi Ram muffler (big, free-flowing, quiet, stainless steel). Appropriate tailpipe dumping out at the rear corner of the truck, spout angled outward between 30° and 90° and downward between 30° and 45°.

Ignition: HEI.

Charging system upgrades like this. Alternator upgrade's a good idea. No need to waste money, time, or brainpower on exotic ones; just fetch a stock alternator for an '89 D-150 pickup with 5.2 or 5.9 engine. This one if you want 90 amp, or this one if you want 120 amp. They both come with a suitable 2-groove V-belt pulley. Minor bracket modifications will accommodate it, and it won't even look all that different to original, just smaller.

Regulator: Mopar-type external; this heavy-duty adjustable one.

Upgrades to the brakes, seatbelts, headlamps, etc are a very good idea to go with the high-zoot motor. Shop carefully; there's a ton of fraudulent/bad-idea junk on the market, especially in lighting. General idea in this post.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:59 am 
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I'd rethink that Aussiespeed intake. Not really well matched to the vehicle and intended usage, and super-not-cost-effective. You'd be better served by a stock-shaped, heated 2bbl intake, whether that be a factory 2bbl item, an Offenhauser 4bbl intake with a carb adapter plate on it, or a 1bbl intake modified to suit a parallel 2bbl setup (photo documentation of a very well done such conversion is here, and there's a nice pictorial on modifying a 1bbl intake here).

Dutra Duals are a fine idea, configured as originally conceived (rear half of a cut/capped stock exhaust manifold + new front-half casting—not two new castings). Exhaust system recipe: 2" pipe off each of the manifolds, join those two 2" pipes into one 2.5" pipe with this collector, and run 2-1/4" pipe into this late-model Hemi Ram muffler (big, free-flowing, quiet, stainless steel). Appropriate tailpipe dumping out at the rear corner of the truck, spout angled outward between 30° and 90° and downward between 30° and 45°.

Ignition: HEI.

Charging system upgrades like this. Alternator upgrade's a good idea. No need to waste money, time, or brainpower on exotic ones; just fetch a stock alternator for an '89 D-150 pickup with 5.2 or 5.9 engine. This one if you want 90 amp, or this one if you want 120 amp. They both come with a suitable 2-groove V-belt pulley. Minor bracket modifications will accommodate it, and it won't even look all that different to original, just smaller.

Regulator: Mopar-type external; this heavy-duty adjustable one.

Upgrades to the brakes, seatbelts, headlamps, etc are a very good idea to go with the high-zoot motor. Shop carefully; there's a ton of fraudulent/bad-idea junk on the market, especially in lighting. General idea in this post.

Dan -

I knew i should've inquired earlier but got a little carried away when I saw the parts come up on Ebay. (I bought all the AussieSpeed stuff used - $250 for the intake/$500 for the dutra duals - saved considerably on shipping)

Given i've already got the the intake & dutras installed - do you still recommend pivoting to something else? I plan on putting in some sort of heater/plenum box below the intake to alleviate the heat issue. If it's truly not suitable for my application - i'll look into some of the options you proposed. Just curious what type of issues you forsee me having with the current set up i have configured.

I'll look into the HEI & charging system upgrades.

I really appreciate your input - i've gathered a lot of information from you on other posts.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:43 am 
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where are you located?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:04 am 
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I have a 71 D100 shortbed that I upgraded to a 2bbl Carter BBS through a super six intake and used Dutra duals into a custom built collector, HEI ignition, RV cam, head shaved .10 for 9.5:1 compression, fancy valve job. I ran it on propane, which has higher octane, but fewer BTUs, so mileage was around 10 mpg.

727 automatic, and 3:23 rear gears. It was fairly comfortable at 70 mph. Scarebird front disc brake conversion. I towed a 65 Barracuda roller with it once, and it was okay, but I had to keep it at 55 mph to avoid overheating and sway (flat towed with bar on step bumper hitch).

Riles---The thing you need to spend money on next is ABSOLUTELY better brakes. Especially if you are towing. They will make a big difference. Also front suspension and possiby new kingpins. See Sweptline.org for tips on this kind of stuff.

Best of luck and keep us posted,
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Given i've already got the the intake & dutras installed - do you still recommend pivoting to something else? I plan on putting in some sort of heater/plenum box below the intake to alleviate the heat issue.
The mismatch here is an intake designed for a high-RPM motor (more detail on this if you want it) and an application (truck) calling for a low-RPM torquer motor.

An add-on heater (waterbox or whatever) can slowly and inefficiently bring not enough heat to the intake, but won't resolve the mismatch. Undoing the manifold install to put in an intake that will serve you better would be the smaller nuisance in the bigger context.

You got a great deal on those items. It's easy to get carried away buying high-zoot parts. Fortunately, that also means it's easy to sell them! :mrgreen:

(A Holley 350 isn't a terrible choice of carburetor. Not the one I'd pick, but that's a different question.)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:33 pm 
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Given i've already got the the intake & dutras installed - do you still recommend pivoting to something else? I plan on putting in some sort of heater/plenum box below the intake to alleviate the heat issue.
The mismatch here is an intake designed for a high-RPM motor (more detail on this if you want it) and an application (truck) calling for a low-RPM torquer motor.

An add-on heater (waterbox or whatever) can slowly and inefficiently bring not enough heat to the intake, but won't resolve the mismatch. Undoing the manifold install to put in an intake that will serve you better would be the smaller nuisance in the bigger context.

You got a great deal on those items. It's easy to get carried away buying high-zoot parts. Fortunately, that also means it's easy to sell them! :mrgreen:

(A Holley 350 isn't a terrible choice of carburetor. Not the one I'd pick, but that's a different question.)
Dan - correct me if i'm wrong - but don't Longer runners on an intake manifold generally improve an engine's torque production at lower RPMs by creating a longer air column which helps to improve the air intake efficiency at lower engine speeds? I thought this was ideal for a truck applications where low-end torque is prioritized. Again i'm a complete novice but I'll need some further clarification on this..

FYI - the electronic ignition I've installed is this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226019040510


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